On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Jerry Feldman wrote:
> Broadband speeds can vary depending on traffic on your loop.

  Good point.  I was thinking in terms of DSL, which is point-to-point, from
subscriber to CO.  Cable Internet is a shared medium.  There is no way to
isolate one subscriber from everyone else.  If there is a problem with Cable
ISPs over-subscribing their cable data segments, that will affect
performance as well.

> Good broadband carriers limit the number of subscribers on a single area.

  Of course, if all ISPs were "good", we would not be having this
discussion.  :-)

> But, measuring inside the ISP does nothing to measure their connection to
> the Internet. So, I maintain that testing bandwidth between your system
> and one of the various bandwidth sites is a reasonable test ...

  The problem with those things is that there are so many variables which
can affect them: ISP network quality, immediate ISP demand, route to test
server, general Internet conditions, immediate load on test server, latency,
packet loss, etc, etc, ad infinitum, ad nauseum.  Sure, those tests will
give you a number, but it does not tell you anything about *why* you got the
number you did.  If all you want is a warm fuzzy, then sure, go for it.  :)
But if you want data that actually tells you something about the networks
involved, you need more detailed measurements.

-- 
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