On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Paul Lussier wrote:

> >I was wonderring if there was a quick and easy HOWTO for Amanda out
> >there....
>
> No, but she comes with extensice documentation in the docs/ subdir of
> the source.

Been there.  That's what I'm complaining about.  They are great if I
wanted to modify or troubleshoot, but I'm trying to install and
configure tyhe initial amanda.conf files etc.

>  If you installed the RPMs from RH, I highly recommend
> you 'rpm -e' immediately and install from source.  RH not only places
> the amanda stuff in really bizarre locations, but they don't even
> configure the package properly.  Most problems I've seen on the
> amanda-user's mailing list over the past couple of years have been
> easily solved by installing from source over the RH rpms.

Yup.  Been perusing that thread on their archives.  I had initially
installed from source any way.  At the time I didn't even bother looking
for the RPM because it wasn't on the sourceforge download page.  If the
maintainers don't make the rpm, and it didn't get installed when I
installed the OS, I will generally install feom source any way.

> >Anyone out there have a relatively simple set of instructions for
> >getting it up and running with minimal hassle?
>
> No, other than following the docs/* files.  Amanda is an incredibly
> complex package, and as a result, it's not *easy* to do anything with
> it until you really know and understand how she works.

So I'm seeing.  But with all the good press it's gotten.... I figured
someone would write a decent install doc.  The one in the doc/*
directory blows.  It's misleading, incomplete, and plain wrong.

> I've been
> using Amanda for years, so I'm quite familiar with her quirks and
> idiosynchrosies (for a while my wife was referring to Amanda as "the
> other woman" because fighting with her cause me to get home so late
> so many times :)

LOL....  I'm beginning to think a wife might be easier to handle.

> >For those interested, here's what I'm trying to do:
> >At work, we need backups made nightly, with weekly fulls.
> >Amanda to run on a PIII800/384 Mandrake8.1 to later be moved to an
> >Athlon1900+/1024/RH7.2.  Tape drive is an HP Surestore Autoloader (1/9)
> >with Ultrium tapes.  There is about half a TB that needs to be backed up
> >at the moment.
>
> First thing is this:  Amanda uses a "dumpcycle" during which you are
> guaranteed to get fulldumps done at least once per file system, but
> not all at once, nor on the same tape.  That's just the way amanda
> works.  Amanda is designed to load balance everything for you and
> take the hassle out of trying to figure out which level to do when.

That's part of what I like about it.  Most comercial packages, when they
work, are flakey and each one is a completely different animal.

> That being said, you can do what you want, you just need to be
> creative.  I've been doing this for quite some time.  What I did was
> create 2 configurations: 'fulldumps' and 'incrementals'.
[snip]

> I hope that helps.  Feel free to e-mail me privately if you get stuck!

<G> I think once I get a cycle (or two) going, I'll be Ok.  I just need
to get the initial configs working.  The examples were mostly useless,
and the Linuxconf plugin wasn't much better.

Looks like I'm going to have to wing it from the docs available.  Maybe
I can keep a log of what I did and write the beginnings of a mini-howto.

Thanks,

Brian

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