Hi Brian:

> Would someone with an interest in a11y evangalization be willing to step
> up to the plate and take ownership of this task of collecting
> testimonials and getting them up on the Wiki?

As the committee is formed, this is definitely a task we can tap people 
to do.  We can also probe the various user lists.  I know we often get 
unsolicited pleasant feedback on the Orca list.

We also have great contacts in places such as Spain where Orca and GNOME 
accessibility are helping with making important decisions.

>> We also need to coordinate efforts across GNOME.  For example: what's 
>> going on with metacity's composite manger and gnome-mag?  What new 
>> widgets are in GTK+ and do they need GAIL support?  Is this new 
>> application "X" accessible?
> 
> Yes, it would be nice to have a matrix on the GAP Wiki which shows
> which applications have been tested, and which ones have problems.

There's definitely various aspects of coverage that need to be done, and 
I suspect the dimensions of this matrix might go beyond 2.  It is also 
something we can work on once the committee is formed.  Brian, do you 
have a list of all the end user apps that are part of GNOME?  That would 
be a good start.  We also must include other non-GNOME apps of great 
relevance, such as Firefox, Thunderbird, OOo, Compiz, etc.

> Yes, prioritizing a11y bugs is a huge job.  It would be great if we
> could get some volunteers to help make sure that bugs have proper
> keywords and are appropriately prioritized and highlighted.  Perhaps we
> need a place on the Wiki where the most shameful bugs are listed in the
> hopes that this will help encourage their resolution.

We've done the 'shame' thing with GNOME bugs affecting Orca and had 
limited success.  People just respond better to compliments, 
recognition, and thank yous than shame.  IMO, the best way to get 
languishing bugs addressed is to pleasantly, but aggressively, pursue 
them and let the people know the impact the bug has on the usability of 
their product.  This is something that someone with good program 
management skills could do well in.

>> We also need a nice logo.  :-)
> 
> Willie, would you be willing to create a Wiki page on the GAP website
> where we can start collecting our ideas, and then we can use the Wiki
> for reference in addition to our email discussion?

By all means.  I'll try to work something up soon.

>> You bet, as long as my boss agrees.  :-)
> 
> You should find out.  You should be able to point him to this email
> discussion to demonstrate the community interest.  I think with your
> leadership experience in GNOME a11y, you would be especially valuable
> to have engaged in this sort of project.

My boss is a great guy and I also value Sun's commitment to 
accessibility.  I've actually felt guilty going to Xmas parties this 
year telling people how much I like my job.  I think the only resistance 
I would receive is a question of the opportunity cost with respect to 
Orca.  Time spent on this means time spent away from Orca.  But, Orca is 
maturing and there's a great community of users and developers behind 
it.  In addition, work on this would still have a very positive impact 
on Orca and GNOME a11y across the board.

Will

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