O/H Brent Smith έγραψε: > Shaun McCance wrote: >> On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 21:29 +0000, Simos Xenitellis wrote: >> >>> O/H Shaun McCance έγραψε: >>> >>>> On Sun, 2006-02-05 at 12:07 +0000, Joachim Noreiko wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Our situation is that we need writers. We need to >>>>> lower the barriers to entry, and one of them is >>>>> expecting new doc writers to build themselves a >>>>> complete GNOME from CVS before they can write >>>>> documentation. >>>>> >>>>> My experiences would suggest that expecting doc >>>>> writers to build GNOME themselves isn't feasible. >>>>> >>>> >>>> [snipped insightful material for expediency] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Here are my ideas for discussion, please add your own: >>>>> >>>>> * provide binaries of apps that doc writers can >>>>> download and run >>>>> * ask people who can compile to write brief summaries >>>>> of what's new, that doc writers can then clean up >>>>> * make scripts that can build you a single app from >>>>> CVS with one command >>>>> >> >> [snip] >> >>>> One possible solution is to provide Live CDs at every >>>> unstable point release. Doing so would undoubtedly >>>> help the bug hunting efforts as well. But it's a huge >>>> undertaking. >>>> >>> >>> Another option is to create a virtual machine suitable for VMWare Player. It should be easy for the developer and also for the documentation writer. >>> What you do here is you create such a virtual machine and let your technical writers run them with their VMWare Player. >>> >>> Some links. >>> 1. Free VMWare Player, available for Linux, Windows >>> http://www.vmware.com/products/player/ >>> 2. Community developed virtual machines list >>> http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/vm/community.html >>> >>> The main advantages of a virtual machine over a Live CD are: >>> 1. The developer can easily create it and customise by removing unneeded parts to make it small >>> 2. No need to burn a CD >>> 3. Faster to boot than CD as it resides on the hard disk >>> 4. You can set the resolution by default to 800x600, which is friendly to screenshots. >>> 5. You can even take screenshot of GDM. >>> 6. Screenshots are saved either on the host OS or from within the virtual machine. >>> >>> I am not affiliated with VMWare. >> >> >> Hot damn, I never even thought of that. That's quite >> possibly the coolest idea ever. Whom do we need to >> pester to make this happen? >> >> -- >> Shaun >> > > I know Luis Villa was involved in creating live CDs last major release with > snapshots of GNOME. I'm not sure exactly how he did it, but > creating the actual virtual machine is a breeze, even using free > products such as a qemu (that remain compatible with VMPlayer). > > I usually have no problem getting jhbuild to build everything > (eventually). I would be willing to create a virtual machine on a monthly > basis during development release for this task. > task. This is great! Could you please create such a virtual machine for the latest GNOME Beta release? I think the latest is 2.13.90, http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/teams/releng/
I am happy to try out/provide feedback on the result. Cheers, Simos
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