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Hi Radina, I think that everything looks great and it looks like a great project. Unfortunately, I don't think I will have the time to mentor that as I will already have SoC students. But seeing your initiatives and your motivation, there's no doubt you will be an awesome work. Lionel Le 26/03/12 13:55, Radina Matic a écrit : > Hi Tiffany, that's great news...!!! > > I am not familiar with Gitorious but if you think that it is > better, I have no issues with using it as long as it is OK with the > GTG Developer team. Would it be easy to merge/transfer the docs > once they are complete with the rest of GTG project on Launchpad? > > Bertrand, Lionel, Izidor, what do you say? > > Cheers, Radina > > > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 01:17, Tiffany Antopolski > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Hi Radina, > > I am a member of the Gnome Documentation Team and willing to > mentor GWOP this year. I had a quick glance at your outline and it > seems to me you are on the right track. > > Your plan of an index.page and stub pages for the topics would be > great for your application. For further resources see > https://live.gnome.org/DocumentationProject/Tasks/ApplicationHelp > (the section on the left titled Resources of course :-)), as well > as https://live.gnome.org/gtg/documentation. > > Are you familiar with https://gitorious.org/? I ask because I see > that gtg is not using git.gnome.org <http://git.gnome.org> or > bugzilla.gnome.org <http://bugzilla.gnome.org> for the workflow... > therefore I think it would be good for now to track your project > using gitorious. > > At the moment I am not familiar with how the workflow for this > project would work using Launchpad and bzr, so the I think > gitorious would be the easiest until the docs are complete. > > Izidor, Lionel, and Bertrand, would this work for you? > > > > 2012/3/25 Radina Matic <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > > Seems that my previous message was held for moderation because of > the attachment size so I am forwarding the text only version... > > Regards, Radina > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Radina Matic* > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> Date: Sun, > Mar 25, 2012 at 22:41 Subject: Re: contribution to GTG project and > GOPW To: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Marina Zhurakhinskaya > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, Izidor Matušov > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, > Lionel Dricot <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, Bertrand > Rousseau <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>>, [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>, Luca Invernizzi > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > > Hello everybody, > > My name is Radina and I have been collaborating with the Getting > Things GNOME! project with the desire to apply for 2012 GNOME > Outreach Program for Women internship. Marina Zhurakhinskaya > suggested (please read the conversation bellow for all the details) > that given that I am most interested in working on the GTG User > Documentation, it would be best to count on someone from the GNOME > Documentation team as a co-mentor for the GOPW program. > > I have already prepared the Topic Outline for the GTG User > Documentation (see the attached document) and I am waiting for more > feedback from the developer group while learning Mallard. That part > is precisely why would I need a co-mentor from someone from your > group. I would love to hear your input regarding the attached topic > outline and, if possible, some recommended resources for working > with Mallard (a part from Project Mallard > <http://projectmallard.org/index.html> page that I am already > using). My plan would be to have at least the the guide index.page > and the topic pages of the first level ready before I submit my > application. > > During the internship I would first concentrate on producing a > quality User Documentation for Getting Things GNOME, but once that > task is done, I would love to continue to work on documenting > other GNOME applications whose user docs need rewriting, editing > or translating to Mallard format. > > Looking forward to hearing from you... :) > > Regards, Radina Matic > > > > On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 08:54, Radina Matic <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Hi Marina, > > Thank you for your email and the information, it will sure help us > all. > > I agree that considering what I would mostly like to do, that being > the documentation for GTG, it will probably be best to have some > kind of joint Docs & GTG mentorship where I could count on > subject-matter expertise from various GTG developers, together with > somebody from the Documentation team for writing, editing & > technical questions regarding Mallard. I don't really care which > one of them is going to be the official mentor, they all seem > pretty cool to me... :) > > Even though I would like to concentrate on GTG documentation as my > main project, if time allows it I would not mind taking additional > documentation tasks after it. I will forward our conversation to > the mentors of the documentation team to get their input. > > Thanks again for your help! > > Regards, Radina > > > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 06:21, Marina Zhurakhinskaya > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Hi Radina! > > Thank you for your interest in GNOME and OPW! It would be great to > have you apply for the program! > > It's expected that an intern would collaborate with multiple > community members anyway, so it doesn't matter if you have one or > two mentors. However, you can definitely have official co-mentors > if people are most comfortable with that arrangement. It's expected > that a mentor would answer the intern's questions within a day or > so, and is available to discuss things with the intern on IRC at > least couple times a week. However, in some cases the mentor can > just direct you to another community member who might be most > knowledgeable for helping you with your task or be more available. > > If you are interested in applying to work on documentation, you > should also talk to the documentation team folks, and perhaps you > can consider working on documenting other projects, in addition to > GTG, during your internship. You can find out who they are on the > Mentors page. As you can see there are many other applications that > need documentation too: > https://live.gnome.org/DocumentationProject/Tasks/ApplicationHelp > > So perhaps, it would work out best if you have one mentor from GTG > as the main project whose documentation you would focus on and > another mentor from the documentation team. > > You might also like to look at the GNOME marketing project. Though > it sounds like you would be most interested in applying to work on > documentation, you can see if there are some ways you would like to > help out with GNOME marketing as you go along. > > Izidor, Lionel, Bertrand, you are definitely welcome to add > yourself as mentors for GTG on > https://live.gnome.org/GnomeLove/Mentors and let me know if you > have any questions about the outreach program. > > Radina, you to please feel free to let me know if you have any > additional questions about the program! > > Thanks! Marina > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Radina Matic" > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> To: > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Cc: > "Izidor Matušov" <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>>, "Lionel Dricot" > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, "Bertrand Rousseau" > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:16:42 PM Subject: contribution to > GTG project and GOPW > > > Hi, > > Recently I have been collaborating with the Getting Things GNOME > project by translating the GUI into Spanish, Italian and Catalan, > and by suggesting some more general GUI usability improvements. I > like the project very much and I want to contribute further so I > was thinking of applying for the 2012 GNOME Outreach Program for > Women internships with a User Documentation writing project and > some community management for Getting Things GNOME. > > However, even though he is listed as a mentor for the GTG project , > Luca Invernizzi seems to be unavailable at present, and I have been > in contact with the rest of developers to see if anybody is > interested in becoming a GOPW mentor for my collaboration with the > GTG. They all seem enthusiastic about my present contributions and > possible future collaboration, but not being very familiar with the > GOPW program, they are unsure about the specific mentoring duties > and, more importantly, time commitment that the mentoring would > entail. I must admit I am curious about it myself - I know that > interns commit to a 40 hours working week during which they are > required to be available on the IRC channel, but how often is a > mentor required to "check" on them? Daily? Once a week? Could the > mentoring responsibilities be shared by more than one developer? > That might help considering their busy schedules... > > It would be great if you could reply to all of us with some more > details regarding the above questions. I am very interested in > continuing my collaboration with the GTG project while > participating in GNOME Outreach Program for Women this year, and I > will be looking forward to hearing from you. > > Best regards, Radina Matic > > > > > 2012/3/23 Bertrand Rousseau < [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > >> >> Hi, >> >> This would a terrific project! Indeed GTG is clearly > in need of better >> documentation. >> >> Unfortunately, as I already told you. I don't think I > could mentor >> more than one person at a time this year. Even if > you're "low >> maintenance", that would not be a responsible thing to > do for me... >> Since I hope to get a GSoC student this year, I'm > afraid I cannot >> propose myself. >> >> As for the "community manager" position, I could be > your more >> technical proxy if you want. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Bertrand >> >> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Radina Matic < > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: >>> Hi Lionel, >>> >>> According to the info on GOPW page interns can > choose tasks from 4 areas: >>> Marketing, Coding, Web/Graphic Design and > Documentation/Translation, so yes, >>> non-programming tasks are allowed. >>> >>> As far for who is actually responsible for the > program, a part from the >>> email address [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> they do not offer much more >>> information. I was thinking of contacting them > anyway, so if one of you is >>> willing to take on the mentorship, I could ask more > details about what >>> exactly would it entail... >>> >>> It would be great to collaborate with someone for > community management, >>> specially if that someone is more of a programming > background than me, which >>> won't be difficult at all... ;) >>> >>> Regards, Radina >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 2012/3/22 Lionel Dricot < [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > >>>> > Hi Radina, > > I'm not familiar with the GOPW. Are non-programming >> tasks allowed? If > yes, then you would be very welcome. Who is >> responsible for GOPW? Are > you sure that writing doc is enough to be accepted? > > We have another candidate as the community manager >> but I don't see why > we can't have two. The tasks would be to maintain >> the blog and the G+ > page. > > Lionel > > > Le 22/03/12 08:56, Radina Matic a écrit : >>>> >> Hello everybody, > >> Recently I have been collaborating with the GTG project by >> translating the GUI into Spanish, Italian and Catalan but I >> wanted to contribute more and I was thinking of applying for the >> GNOME Outreach Program for Women internships < >> https://live.gnome.org/GnomeWomen/OutreachProgram2012 > with a >> /*User Documentation*/ writing project for Getting Things GNOME. >>>> >> However, even though he is listed as a mentor for the GTG >> project < https://live.gnome.org/GnomeLove/Mentors >, Luca >> Invernizzi seems >>>> >> to be unavailable at the moment, and Bertrand Rousseau suggested >> that I contact all the developers to see if anybody is >> interested in becoming a GOPW mentor for my collaboration with >> the GTG project. > >> I like the fact that GTG is still very much a work-in-progress, >> and since there is no Help file or User Documentation yet, apart >> from the lonely wiki page, I feel I can really make a >> contribution by creating some new content (docs or tutorials) >> instead of just editing somebody else's writing :) I briefly >> checked the Project Mallard pages and I suppose it will not be >> an unsurmountable venture since I am familiar with HTML. I will >> be sending you the detailed outline of help topics in a couple >> of days, but in short my plan would be to start from the >> existing sample "Learn to..." tasks that come with the GTG, use >> them to create the first topics for the new Mallard docs and >> expand the Help from there. Ideally major topics could have >> tutorials following the user scenarios somebody mentioned on the >> mailing list recently, or video tutorials and screencast (I will >> have to figure out what to use for screencasting on Linux instead >> of Camtasia that I used on Windows). > >> One advance warning: I am not a coder, just fairly proficient in >> HTML, CSS and WordPress management. Sometimes I even manage to >> change an already existing Javascript line (or two) without it >> crashing on me afterwards, but I never wrote anything from >> scratch. I even muddled a bit with Flash and Actionscript, but >> that was a while ago. Now that I think of it, the first tutorial >> I ever wrote was about Flash projectors and CD burning, I think >> it can still be found somewhere on the web... :P > >> I also saw that you were looking for the community manager and >> if that "position" can be filled by somebody without the actual >> coding knowledge, it could be a part of my tasks as an intern. >> And it will be easier to give more international exposure to GTG >> as I could write both the docs and the blog in English, Spanish >> and Italian (and Catalan if time allows it). > >> I know that the deadline for the GOPW applications is very soon >> but at the moment I am pretty available and the only thing I will >> be doing until September are a couple of online courses at the >> UC Berkeley Extension where I plan to finish the Professional >> Certificate Program in Technical Communication this year. So a >> part from that, I am free as a bird and could easily take on >> another "small" contribution required before the deadline for the >> GOPW and the 40 hours per week during the May-August internship >> period. Here you can find all the info about the GOPW internship >> < https://live.gnome.org/GnomeWomen/OutreachProgram2012 > and >> the information for prospective mentors < >> https://live.gnome.org/InfoForMentors >. I know that you guys >> are >>>> >> all pretty busy with your own projects but I really hope there >> is somebody with enough time to take on the mentorship - I am >> very autonomous and extremely low maintenance, scout's honor ;) > >> That's it for now. I am looking forward to hearing from you... > >> Regards, Radina > >>> >> >> >> >> -- Bertrand Rousseau > > > _______________________________________________ women-outreach > mailing list [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/women-outreach > > > > > > _______________________________________________ gnome-doc-list > mailing list [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-doc-list > > > > > -- Tiffany Antopolski > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9wXIEACgkQMvYGdShAWji+VACfX7QflOyvCdyNUpeKm2TSoXUX 2TAAn1MR7vIhLxYFN6RSpNSwB/FIUXfw =rClo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ gnome-doc-list mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-doc-list
