X-posting to gsod-t...@gnome.org for highlighting this feedback request. On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 03:28, Pranali Deshmukh <pranali21...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Umang, > > Thank you so much for getting back to me and sharing your valuable > feedback! :) > > On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 00:54, Umang Jain <mailumangj...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Pranali, >> >> Things are looking good to me at least (BUT I am not a mentor for this >> project). I went through most of your links mentioned below and left a >> couple of comments here and there. >> The broad timeline seems OK to me and looking at your experience now, I >> think it's realistic. On the other hand, I want to keep an open mind about >> the timeline as lot of stuff >> depends on you, your mentor(s) and priorities. Things might change in due >> course and that's OK. Some deviation might happen from the proposal but it >> should be fine >> as long as you and your mentor(s) are on the same page. >> > While drafting the timeline for the proposal I made a conscious effort to > keep it as realistic as possible, however, I do understand that this might > be subject to change as the project progresses based upon the mentor's > feedback and shifting priorities. I plan to keep working with the project > mentors for this during the course of the project. > >> >> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 8:32 PM Pranali Deshmukh via gnome-doc-list < >> gnome-doc-list@gnome.org> wrote: >> >>> Hi Petr, Umang, Ole, >>> >>> Thank you for getting back to me. I wasn't quite sure if we could upload >>> a draft proposal on the GSoD web portal, so I copied over all the questions >>> to a Google Doc file [1 >>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aaOR2Gun8OA-oV9YRQZoXpbbUVw_fv699vFlQEk2_kU/edit?usp=sharing>] >>> and have started preparing it there. It's still a work in progress, >>> however, I plan to finish it by the end of the day today. I have also >>> created another Google Doc to prepare a draft for the project roadmap [2 >>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Uns399q_7uHhUyeeAdZ86SHUcio1aEicccKJCOix-88/edit?usp=sharing>] >>> for which I'm planning to add a link in my proposal. >>> >>> For my contributions to the Documentation project, I have also created a >>> spreadsheet [3 >>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_MLpRID_50EVz70LoojnUtRn_8SHqn7FvoBmU15u48g/edit?usp=sharing>] >>> on Google Drive with the links to the issues I have worked upon along with >>> the links for my commits and Merge Requests. So far my last 3 contributions >>> were to the User Docs issues for Evince, wherein I interacted with Andre >>> Klapper <https://gitlab.gnome.org/aklapper> and Germán Poo-Caamaño >>> <https://gitlab.gnome.org/gpoo> while working on these issues. >>> >>> Since the last few days, I was solely focussing on my preparing my >>> application proposal. However, I have identified a couple of issues that I >>> want to work upon during the next few days to familiarize myself with the >>> scope of work on the Gedit and GNOME Notes apps. However, I'm presently a >>> bit unsure about the status of work on the Gedit issue [#167 >>> <https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gedit/-/issues/167>] so I have >>> commented on it asking if I can work on it. For Gnome Notes, I have been >>> going through issue #75 >>> <https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-notes/-/issues/75> and am working >>> on a patch for it. I also plan to add some screenshots to it since >>> Bijiben's Help documentation looks a bit sparse and some screenshot would >>> go a long way in helping end-users. >>> >>> Apart from these, I have also started blogging [4 >>> <https://pranalideshmukh.wordpress.com>] about my journey [5 >>> <https://pranalideshmukh.wordpress.com/2020/07/08/google-season-of-docs-2020/>] >>> on this project and am planning to continue posting blogs regarding my work >>> on the project. >>> >> This is great. Looking forward to your blog and progress reports. Also >> did you figure out how to get your blog in on planet.gnome.org ? :) >> > Ahh! I'm glad that you brought this up. I have been looking at the Planet > GNOME Guidelines wiki page <https://wiki.gnome.org/PlanetGnome> to figure > out how to add my blog to planet.gnome.org. Once I'm done with my > proposal submission, I'll be filing the issues for setting this up on > GitLab and hopefully have my blog added to Planet! :) > >> >>> I have a query regarding the GSoD program in general which I am a bit >>> confused about after doing probably a bit too much research about it. The >>> documentation work, from what I understand is an ongoing long term >>> contribution area, however, for the purposes of the GSoD project I've >>> planned out my schedule for the Standard 3 month length, with further >>> contributions after the completion of the project. Is it ok to apply for >>> the Standard length (3 months) for the program or does it have to be a >>> long-term (5 months) project? Also, does the program duration have any >>> impact on the stipend amount? >>> >> I think it depends if you opt for "long running" projects. So your >> proposal timeline length should vary accordingly. Have you registered on >> GSoD website yet? Maybe take a look on workflow on how to submit a proposal >> and there you might find a checkbox if you want to opt for standard or >> long-running projects. Not sure if it's true but I am just assuming things >> based on my looking up GSoD's website. >> > I was unsure if I would be able to modify my proposal once I submit it so > I haven't submitted it yet. There is an option on the application form to > indicate whether the project is of "Standard Length (3 Months)" or a > "Long-Running (5 Months)" type. I've been planning my proposal around the > Standard Length time period, as it looks like quite a reasonable time-frame > for the project. I can always continue contributing to the project after > the completion of the program as well! :) > >> >> I don't know how stipends might work. It would be better if you can >> contact Google OSPO in some way for clarification. >> > Yes. I have sent an email to the season-of-docs-support list asking for > clarification on this. > >> >>> I have also gone ahead and shared my application proposal, project >>> timeline plan and my contributions list documents with you. Can you please >>> review them and share your feedback on how I can improve them further? >>> >> >>> Also, can you please let me know if there are any other steps that I >>> should work upon before submitting my proposal tomorrow? >>> >> >> Hi Petr, your specific comments would be valuable here as I see you being >> one of the mentors. :) >> > @Petr Kovar <pmko...@gnome.org> @sha...@gnome.org <sha...@gnome.org> It > would be very helpful if you can also share your valuable feedback about my > draft proposal and project roadmap so that it if there is anything that you > want me to update or any specific points which you think I should focus on > and elaborate more about, that would be great! Looking forward to hearing > from you! > > Kind Regards, > Pranali Deshmukh > >> >>> [1] - >>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aaOR2Gun8OA-oV9YRQZoXpbbUVw_fv699vFlQEk2_kU/edit?usp=sharing >>> [2] - >>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Uns399q_7uHhUyeeAdZ86SHUcio1aEicccKJCOix-88/edit?usp=sharing >>> [3] - >>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_MLpRID_50EVz70LoojnUtRn_8SHqn7FvoBmU15u48g/edit?usp=sharing >>> [4] - https://pranalideshmukh.wordpress.com >>> [5] - >>> https://pranalideshmukh.wordpress.com/2020/07/08/google-season-of-docs-2020/ >>> >>> >>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 at 17:47, Petr Kovar <pmko...@gnome.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Pranali, >>>> >>>> First off, thanks for your interest in GNOME GSoD 2020. Can you point us >>>> to your GitLab merge requests you have already submitted? That will help >>>> us get a better idea if it's that kind of contributions we would like to >>>> get scope-wise, and as a group we can also help with reviews if you need >>>> them. >>>> >>>> Umang, thanks for following up. And you are totally right, this work is >>>> really mostly about submitting merge requests against GitLab repos that >>>> require user docs updates. >>>> >>>> Thank you! >>>> pk >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 16:42:14 +0530 >>>> Umang Jain via gnome-doc-list <gnome-doc-list@gnome.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> > Hi Pranali, >>>> > >>>> > On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 4:02 PM Pranali Deshmukh via gnome-doc-list < >>>> > gnome-doc-list@gnome.org> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > > Hi, >>>> > > >>>> > > Can you please help me contact any of the mentors for the project. >>>> I have >>>> > > already made a few contributions to the project (Update app help) >>>> however, >>>> > > so far, apart from the discussions on my merge requests I haven't >>>> been able >>>> > > to contact anyone from GNOME including the the GSoD mentors via any >>>> of the >>>> > > communication mediums (email, IRC). >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > Thanks for your contributions. It definitely helps to get started via >>>> > contributions and that puts quite a edge in your application. So, >>>> indeed >>>> > you are on the right track. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > > As such I am worried about applying for this project for GSoD, >>>> since there >>>> > > seems to be no medium for gathering any direct or indirect >>>> suggestions and >>>> > > feedback about the work that I can do for this project. >>>> > > >>>> > > Can you please help me contact any of the project mentors with whom >>>> I >>>> > > could talk to about the project itself. >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > Yes, I can understand any direct suggestions and feedback from >>>> mentors, >>>> > helps refining the proposal; But also, do not discount the >>>> communications >>>> > happened over the merge requests because that's what you will be >>>> engaged to >>>> > do 90% of the time during the season. >>>> > If those things are rolling along, it's a good sign :) Highlight your >>>> > contributions while finalizing your proposal for GSoD. >>>> > >>>> > Coming back to your request at hand, I think you have researched and >>>> made >>>> > up your mind for the project you want to pursue, so I would suggest >>>> to just >>>> > start preparing the proposal. Is there a way to upload a draft >>>> proposal on >>>> > the GSoD web portal? >>>> > I am sure GSoC's web portal has one, but not sure of GSoD. >>>> > >>>> > Since the deadline for applications is close, you can use your best >>>> > judgement to align the proposal with the tasks and the estimated >>>> timeline >>>> > and upload it to the web portal (if possible). Maybe you might then >>>> get >>>> > some (last-min)feedback then :) >>>> > In parallel, continue your contributions on the things you have been >>>> doing. >>>> > That'll make sure mentors know your name, before they start going >>>> through >>>> > the applications they received for GSoD. >>>> > >>>> > Generally GNOME is quite friendly and responsive community but, you >>>> can >>>> > guess times are a lot weird and each of us (including you) might be >>>> going >>>> > through a lot. >>>> > Best you can do, is to keep up the contributions and keep the timeline >>>> > thing rolling. :) >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > > Kind Regards, >>>> > > Pranali Deshmukh >>>> > > >>>> > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 3:42 PM Pranali Deshmukh < >>>> pranali21...@gmail.com> >>>> > > wrote: >>>> > > >>>> > >> Hi Umang, >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Thank you so much for your quick reply! >>>> > >> >>>> > >> I have already gone through the reference materials listed on the >>>> GNOME >>>> > >> Season of Docs 2020 website for the "Update app help" project. I >>>> understand >>>> > >> that I would have to work on updating the help documentation for >>>> the apps >>>> > >> listed on the ApplicationHelp >>>> > >> <https://wiki.gnome.org/DocumentationProject/Tasks/ApplicationHelp >>>> >page >>>> > >> for apps whose status are currently marked as [REFRESH] or >>>> [NEEDSWORK]. >>>> > >> Also I understand that I would need to use Mallard and Yelp-tools >>>> for this >>>> > >> purpose once I have cloned the repository and set-up my profile on >>>> GitLab. >>>> > >> Are there any steps that I am missing here before I can start >>>> contributing >>>> > >> to the project? >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Also, unfortunately I haven't been able to track them on IRC >>>> whenever I >>>> > >> logged into it. As such it would be great if anyone here can >>>> provide me >>>> > >> with any alternate contact options for me to get in touch with the >>>> project >>>> > >> mentor. >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Kind Regards, >>>> > >> Pranali Deshmukh >>>> > >> >>>> > >> On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 at 18:10, Umang Jain <mailumangj...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> > >> >>>> > >>> Hi Pranali, >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> Thanks for the introduction and your interest in GSoD 2020. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> Since you already seem to have the understanding of how things >>>> work, >>>> > >>> from your oureachy attempt, >>>> > >>> I think the best way is to start making a plan and break-down the >>>> tasks >>>> > >>> required in order to achieve >>>> > >>> the project idea you are targeting for. This will provide a >>>> decent base >>>> > >>> for making a proposal and getting >>>> > >>> it review-ed by the concerned mentors beforehand. For the context >>>> > >>> required for the task, I just had a >>>> > >>> skim of your project idea target on [1] and it seems a lot of >>>> reference >>>> > >>> material is linked there itself with >>>> > >>> potential mentors who might have vouched for the idea. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> I understand that there might be a conundrum in >>>> choosing/monitoring >>>> > >>> various communication channels >>>> > >>> (e.g. mailing list, discourse.gnome.org, IRC, chat.gnome.org >>>> .... ) but >>>> > >>> it's something you need to do initially >>>> > >>> to see which mentors prefers what mode of communication. After >>>> lurking >>>> > >>> for a while, you will get the hang >>>> > >>> of it and will figure out the "primary" mode of communication. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> So have you gone through the reference materials linked on [1]? >>>> Do you >>>> > >>> have any specific questions and/or >>>> > >>> inputs about it? Maybe then this list would be more useful to you. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> [1] https://www.gnome.org/news/2020/05/gnome-season-of-docs-2020/ >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 8:00 PM Pranali Deshmukh via >>>> gnome-doc-list < >>>> > >>> gnome-doc-list@gnome.org> wrote: >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>>> Hi, >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> I am Pranali Deshmukh. I am currently working with Airbus >>>> Operations >>>> > >>>> ltd. as a Data analytics Intern. My internship ends in August >>>> 2020. >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> I am writing to build an application for GSoD2020 with GNOME. >>>> After >>>> > >>>> going through the project ideas for GNOME, I'm most interested >>>> in the >>>> > >>>> following two projects: Content audit and gap analysis for GNOME >>>> - help >>>> > >>>> update App Help. Having gone through the project ideas listed at >>>> the >>>> > >>>> project ideas page, and the requirements for a technical writer, >>>> I feel >>>> > >>>> that I am fit for the position as I already have experience in >>>> technical >>>> > >>>> writing from my Outreachy project attempt for "Haiku". Also, I >>>> have worked >>>> > >>>> extensively on technical documentation projects in the course of >>>> my >>>> > >>>> internship at Airbus. As such I would like to talk to a mentor. >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> In the past, I tried to reach out to some of the folks for a >>>> > >>>> conversation, but I guess the best way to do it is to talk in >>>> more open - >>>> > >>>> and here I am. >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> Looking forward to hearing back from you. >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> Kind Regards, >>>> > >>>> Pranali Deshmukh >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> > >>>> gnome-doc-list mailing list >>>> > >>>> gnome-doc-list@gnome.org >>>> > >>>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-doc-list >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> > > gnome-doc-list mailing list >>>> > > gnome-doc-list@gnome.org >>>> > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-doc-list >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Umang >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> gnome-doc-list mailing list >>> gnome-doc-list@gnome.org >>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-doc-list >>> >>
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