On Sat, 2005-12-10 at 10:40 +0800, Funda Wang wrote: > Shaun> I don't understand at all. Using the characters in [JA], > Shaun> without any zeroes, I get 1002 = 千二 and 1200 = 千二百. > Shaun> No ambiguity. > 1200 is speaking as 一千二 in oral language of Chinese, which will > be confusing if we speak 1002 as 一千二 also. So, 1002 is written as > 一千〇二, and 1020 is written as 一千〇二十.
So it's largely an artifact of how you speak the numbers? The reference page for Japanese seems to indicate that 〇 is virtually never used for Japanese numbers. It might get a little tricky for me to get the 〇 correct, since it seems multiple successive 〇s are collapsed. But I'll see what I can do. > Shaun> For instance, 1000 is 千, but one > Shaun> could also write it as 一千. > 1000 is always written as 一千, while nobody writes it as a single 千。 All right, is that the case for 十, 百, and 万 as well? Are there differences in this between Japanese and Chinese numbering? > Shaun> Furthermore, [ZH] also provides characters for 20, 30, > Shaun> and 40, rather than just prefixing 10 with the correct > Shaun> digit marker. > This is wrong. 廿 is only used in Chinese Lunar Calendar and some old > articles. Nowadays, nobody uses 廿 to represent 20, and there are a lot > of people who don't know how to pronounce 廿 correctly. So, 20 should be > written as 二十. The same applies to 三十 means 30. Good. This is how I have it implemented now, and it's the considerably easier way to do it. > Shaun> Please, > Shaun> everybody send me details of the numbering systems you > Shaun> need, and then double-check my results with the script. > Do you need an complete result list of Chinese numbering system? A comprehensive list would be difficult, since I need to check the algorithm up to some pretty big numbers. A characteristic sampling would be sufficient, but we'd really want it to test key points. I have checked test-numbers into gnome-doc-utils CVS, under the i18n directory. You can use this to check the results of my implementations. For example: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i18n] ./test-numbers japanese 103843 103850 十万三千八百四十三 十万三千八百四十四 十万三千八百四十五 十万三千八百四十六 十万三千八百四十七 十万三千八百四十八 十万三千八百四十九 十万三千八百五十 This has been a lot of fun so far, so please don't hold back on my account. Hit me with your hardest numbering problems. :) -- Shaun _______________________________________________ gnome-i18n mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
