> Hello Chris,
>
> there is V-language and there is
> UI testing too - however this is all very New
> and there UI Looks at moment a bit Like
> in Apple OS.
>
> No offense.
> Greetz.
> Charly.
>
> ken <m...@newcultures.com> schrieb am So., 21. März 2021, 11:45:
>
>> On March 21, 2021 1:27:20 AM UTC, Chris Spencer via gnome-list <
>> gnome-list@gnome.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Is there any way to programmatically lookup the position of widgets
>>> displayed in the Gnome top panel, as well as UI elements within those
>>> widgets?
>>>
>>> I'm trying to build a UI test automation framework for some Gnome Shell
>>> panel widgets. I'd like to write a script that can click on a panel widget,
>>> confirm a popup appears, verify certain text exists in the popup, etc.
>>>
>>> I maintain a Gnome Shell extension, and it's become immensely expensive,
>>> not to develop, but to test and maintain. There are so many different
>>> distros with varying incompatible Gnome versions, and testing them all by
>>> hand is virtually impossible. Fixing a bug for one Gnome version introduces
>>> a bug in another version. It's gotten to the point where I almost have to
>>> abandon the project because it's too difficult to do basic integration and
>>> regression testing on Gnome, but I really want to find a solution.
>>>
>>> Gnome is one of the most widely used desktop environments in the world,
>>> so I find it hard to believe no one else has encountered this problem
>>> befpre.
>>>
>>> I've found some tools like xdotool and pyautogui for programmatically
>>> clicking elements. However, without knowing exactly where widgets are
>>> rendered, the script would be clicking blind. And even if I could reliably
>>> click a location, those tools don't let me read DOM values for the UI
>>> elements at that location.
>>>
>>> I've also found some tools like xwininfo that can query some window
>>> positions and do a little introspection, but this seems specific to X and
>>> treats the entire top panel as one huge window, with no ability to
>>> introspect any of the widgets inside of it.
>>>
>>> I had hoped the Dogtail project might be helpful in this regard, but it
>>> seems to be dead  with virtually no documentation. I was able to build it,
>>> but I couldn't find any ability within it to introspect the top panel.
>>>
>>>
>>> Are there any other tools or libraries I could potentially use? Does
>>> anyone have any alternate suggestions for how I might automate Gnome UI
>>> testing?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>
>> Chris, I might be talking way over my head, and I haven't had my first
>> cup of coffee yet, but speaking just with a little programming experience
>> behind me, I'm guessing that there must be a shared library or two which
>> has the code that creates the widgets which are displayed in the top panel.
>> Some code could be added to that Library which logs that particular event
>> when the widget is created in the top panel, or moved within that top
>> panel, or deleted from it. That logging ability would not need to be
>> existent in that shared library for the whole distro, you just need to have
>> it on your own machine for its testbed environment.
>>
>> I hope this little project turns out to be a lot more fun than I've made
>> it sound. :)
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