В Пнд, 07/04/2008 в 13:11 +0200, Lionel Dricot пишет:
> Hello,
> 
> Introduction
> *************
> 
> If you work with the same /home/ for years, you will agree that hidden
> folders are becoming an huge mess. When upgrading, it might even
> introduce bugs not reproducible anywhere else than on your
> configuration, it requires you to create a new account when you want
> to test a true default configuration and that's only a part of the
> problem. The problem is described here :
> http://ploum.frimouvy.org/?184-cleaning-user-preferences-keeping-user-data
> 
> Hopefully, FreeDesktop.org has issued a recommandation for
> applications to handle their preferences/data/hidden folders :
> http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/latest/ar01s03.html
> 
> I've written a Gnome goal proposal to implement this spec everywhere
> in Gnome and I've received some enthousiast feedbacks :
> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/XDGConfigFolders
> 
> 
> It looks like a lot of people agree on the problem and would like to
> see a solution. Then, I want to bring things further and discuss the
> "how to do it".
> 
> 
> Disclaimer
> ************
> 
> **WARNING** It should be clear for everyone that want to work on this
> what the spec really is. The spec is *NOT* about putting all our old
> hidden folder in a .config one, like some people tend to think. It
> must be clear that the folder $XDG_CONFIG_HOME should be deletable
> without any data loss. See the Gnome goal page for more information.
> 
> 
> Discussion
> ************
> 
> What follows is only my personnal opinion as a non specialist.
> Everything is always open to discussion :
> 
> For some applications, the migration is quite simple. It's a matter of
> putting a few files in some other folders than their own hidden folder
> or .gnome2 (which should disappear completely, IMHO). For applications
> that interact heavily with others, things might be complicated. A lot
> of bugs have already been reported and are tracked by the tracker bug
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=523057
> 
> Then, there is the question : "What about gconf ?". I think that gconf
> should itself store preferences of applications in $XDG_CONFIG_HOME
> and user data in $XDG_DATA_HOME, without the need of creating a
> specific gconf folder in those folders. The usage of gconf should also
> be clarified : why have some application a lot of gconf entries and
> files in their hidden folder (e.g. : epiphany). Worst : why have some
> applications a strict dependancy between data stored in gconf and
> their hidden folder (eg : evolution) ? I see two approach :
> 
> 1) Say that gconf is only for configuuration purpose. No data should
> ever be stored with gconf otherwise it's a bug. I don't know what the
> current status of applications using gconf is.
> 
> 2) Add a property to each gconf key (or group of keys) telling if the
> key is a cache element, a configuration element, a data element. The
> value of this property should be set by the application when creating
> the key. 
> 
> 
> 
> What do you think ? How do you see this problem ? Do you see any other
> major issue ?
> 
> Thanks for your attention and your work on Gnome,

It's a very reasonable proposal. But I think it's not a something that
can be a goal. Goal could be completed in two weeks with the small
changes. This move requires careful update of the applications with
tracking the migration and so on. For example I have no idea how to
migrate gconf folder properly.

So it's just requires a lot of work probably during several release
cycles. Not sure we have power for this move :) But if someone will
propose a set of patches on this issue, why not.

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