On 01/06/2010 04:34 PM, William Jon McCann wrote:
Hey Ryan,

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Ryan Peters<[email protected]>  wrote:
On 01/06/2010 01:06 PM, Rovanion Luckey wrote:

Why is C# trough mono considered a slower language in comparison to any other 
JIT-compiled or interpreted language?

2010/1/6 Ryan Peters<[email protected]>
On 01/06/2010 04:05 AM, David Hamm wrote:

For Your Viewing Pleasure.
http://meson.us/x/GnomeShell/
*note new xcf is missing a lot of stuff from the original draft, this makes me 
sad but I'm to lazy to add it now. *glances at watch*
I'm kinda skeptical the dock will make it in :*(, however if shell looks 
similar to this it might be hard to say no. Firefox also looks ugly atm
I'm sure there are other kinks that could be worked out... would be nice to 
know what-cha think ?

Background Picture is by Pixel F**Kers not sure where exactly I got it...its 
also in the xcf clean. *I can remove it if necessary or if there is a link it 
would be nice to know. I also have more of the backgrounds like it if people 
like

ps. Some stuff not noted in pictures, dragging window to top maximizes, and 
there is no minimize, rather closing the application is like android and its 
kept idle waiting for you unless you forget about it.

Top right Icon also indicates whether signed into some on-line chat 
application. Orange away, clear off-line, Grey invisible ect...

Some music while your looking... http://meson.us/video/2008Dec13th.ogg

This is very, very interesting! Having maximized windows work like tabs is a 
very nice idea, but if they did, how would we deal with the menu bars at the 
top? Would that become part of the tab, or stay on the application?

The gnome-do-like part seems nice, but would it be a good idea if it was 
written from scratch or ported to C/C++ for this implementation? I like 
gnome-do, but C#/Mono is just too slow/memory hogging for many people.
Because, last time I checked, C#/Mono is historically slower than other 
languages. Open up Banshee and compare it to Rhythmbox or Exaile, for instance. 
The latter are definitely faster and use less memory IIRC. Saying all languages 
are the same is like saying all computers are the same, or all video game 
consoles are the same, or all headphones are the same. Each one has different 
strengths and weaknesses. In C#'s case, it happens to be rapid application 
development; as a trade-off, the finished code is usually slower and more 
memory-hogging than other languages. For C/C++, the code is usually faster, but 
takes longer to type or run. Python, another good example, is easier to use and 
doubles as a good scripting language, but, again, some people say it's slower 
and uses more memory than C/C++. Mono-using applications have, for me, been 
generally slower and bulkier than other applications. Using AWN 0.4 over Docky, 
for example, is a huge difference in speed (for me, at least
), and thus I prefer to use it.

Also, not to sound language-aphobic, but C#/Mono is all Microsoft (and Novell) 
owned, and they happen to be the Embrace, Extend, Extinguish crowd; of course 
they want you to use their language (and don't even get me started on 
silverlight).
Don't take this the wrong way but let's please try to avoid
programming language arguments on this list.  We all still have scars
from past battles and I'm pretty sure no one is going to change
anyone's mind.

Thanks,
Jon

Not that I was planning to, but I see your point. I use Gnome-Do on a daily basis, and Banshee actually used to be my favorite music organizing program. I apologize if I sounded willing to start an argument.

Anyways, in relation to having Gnome-Do (or something similar) be part of the interface, isn't that already partially accomplished with the search area in the activities menu?

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