On 8/25/05, Owen Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've set up MoinMoin-1.3.5 on the GNOME web server and done some > initial configuration: > > http://wiki.pango.org/ > > Right now I'm keeping the wiki faith and allowing any logged in user > to edit it, so if people want to start migrating content from > www.pango.org, have at it! > > When it is better than www.pango.org, I'll repoint that. > > Eventually, I think we'll want to #acl protect at least the front > page; there are some reasonably clever wiki-spam-bots out there. > > On Thu, 2005-08-18 at 03:10 -0400, Tom von Schwerdtner wrote: > > > > One option would be something like the Ubuntu wiki: > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ > > > > > > This is basically the moin-1.3 "modern" theme with the tabs removed. So > > > the only wiki related stuff is: > > > > > > * the search and login controls in the top right corner > > > * a single strip below the header with the various wiki links. > > > * one line in the footer giving the last modified date. > > > > IMO the Ubuntu wiki still looks a lot like a wiki, but it is a lot > > less cluttered than some others. > > > > I started playing around with a moin 1.3 theme (titled 'mango') when I > > saw Owens mail (though most of the time was spent trying to figure out > > how to use/setup/theme moin): > > > > At the moment I have the general look of the site straightend out in > > my head and I'm working on removing anything that screams "I'm a > > wiki!" (by either actually removing it or just hiding it a little). > > > > Here is a random screenshot of a random page to give you an idea of the > > style: > > > > http://tvon.etria.com/images/mango.png/image_view_fullscreen > > Hmmm. Interesting. I like the moving of the site navigation to the > side; but the left sidebar is a little big and cluttered. > > Going from the "Clean" theme - what is on wiki.pango.org now, I think > the changes I'd like to see are: > > - Move site navigation (what is currently 4 tabs at the top) to > the side - probably to the left. > - Remove the top Wiki actions line ([Show Changes, Get Info, Subscribe] > - When the user isn't logged in, remove the bottom Wiki actions line > as well. > - Remove the MoinMoin/Python/HTML stuff at the bottom; sure, great > technology, but irrelevant to a visitor. > (I'm happy to have http://pango.org/Colophon/...) > - Get rid of the little pictures by HTML links (should be a user pref > so we could swap the default, but the user pref doesn't seem to > work for me)
Some of that was done the next day, an updated screenshot is here: http://tvon.etria.com/images/mango-2.png/image_view_fullscreen it is still in a half-done state in terms of wiki cleanup though. Using this as a reference point I'd say that: - The 'User' menu should be somewhere else - The main navigation should be the main navigation and not wiki-related links. - The little images in the bottom right should go but the same functionality should be provided through text links somewhere - the edit link should be a little easier to find - The traditional FrontPage should probably be changed to Introduction (not sure how to do that) ... I do agree with your next mail (that it should "remind people of a well designed book"), and what I've done so far does not move in that direction at all. I'm going to toy with something from scratch a bit over the next week (as time permits) and see if anything comes out of it, otherwise maybe Gora has some design talent to spare :) Gora, if you don't want to mess with Moin (or python), I could try coming up with a vanilla theme better suited for CSS-ificiation than the default (eg, more logical structure, more classes/id's, etc...). Regards, Tom _______________________________________________ gnome-web-list mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-web-list
