On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 06:42:27PM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Thomas> You are asking for a lot of labor to be spent to prove a > Thomas> case that some credible sources already see quite plainly. > > Jose Marchesi I don't know, he may be credible but not to me. You and > Andrew I know and respect, but both of you have big blind spots around > marketing and human resource management.
I don't have a blind spot about them, I simply detest them and avoid going anywhere near them. > Both of you are capable > of convincing me, but your unsupported opinions are unreliable. Personally I can't see the point in doing so; it's little more than a historical curiosity. > I'm far more > interested in what's happening with bzr, which no longer looks much > like Arch at all, and (based on the design notes, haven't read the > code) seems to have gone past YAGNI to IDUIT (I Didn't Use It Today) > as a criterion for removing interfaces. I think it goes a little further than that, and their design process is based on "do what I needed to do yesterday, in the hope that someday I need to do it again". The problem with that is that if it produces anything useful, it'll probably be by chance - it's little more than a random walk. They also appear singularly uninterested in the needs of anybody but Canonical, so again it falls to chance as to whether they produce anything useful to anybody else. > As the bzr stuff shows, there are plenty of people even among those > attracted to Arch who really just want a better CVS. Most people just work from muscle memory. It's a useless way to do software engineering, but sadly a lot of people do it anyway, which is why we get things like thedailywtf.com. That's also the explanation for most of the crappy commercial software out there. > [2] Quite possibly Andrew is just shucking us, but if so he's doing > you a disservice. I'm not really sure what you mean here, but as a general rule my interest in things is less than people think and for different reasons. -- Andrew Suffield
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