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hi renilgh! On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 02:07:35PM +0200, reni...@riseup.net wrote: > Everything's cool as long as the blag-star is black! lol! > Another thing I've pointed out in the past and have to bring to > attention again is that a t-shirt embracing the spirit of BLAG and > therefore being embraced (and proudly worn) by the people of BLAG > will not only be free in it's design but although ensure freedom and > respect in all areas of creation. This means ensuring fair wages > for self-determined and unionized workers and a mode of production > that respects people and there environment. very good that you make this point! in our case it's graffiti friends in Amsterdam we ask to do, for the eco and the labour is good to keep production local!!! to transport commands rather than data is more efficient! ;) and let me add more for a future thread: labour issues for those who make the t-shirts but also for those who make the software! with dyne.org we are looking for alternatives to "the marketing" way to think and develop.. we don't have any solution now, so it is important to share our experiences and learn from them. have a look at this: http://www.artandwork.us/ it's mostly a us-centric analysis, still a good source of inspiration to explore the condition of labour in the art market, somehow comparable to that of digital artisans like us, all around the world. FWIW and still in an early phase, we started this year detailing our operations and progress in a way we can confront our different situations and share wealth where is needed http://dyne.org/operations http://dyne.org/progress well ok sorry mates, this is all a bit off-topic now but i'd like to talk to you sometimes :) ciao - -- jaromil, dyne.org developer, http://jaromil.dyne.org GPG: B2D9 9376 BFB2 60B7 601F 5B62 F6D3 FBD9 C2B6 8E39 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iQQcBAEBCAAGBQJMHjGQAAoJEAslGzkIl3JR4+8gAIszOWkaF2LnoA3ziUuIjuBO vt+gHbnW5lu0vj+gyJEWxNT1T+NjfEgeHVdTqjUZkJb9Z+KHgEEmusckCMARuIOs F8CBLmFoH6NRxEtcJSEozW4xP3LlQlt65kGrhJ/b+XqWgBsvZl9HMn8Ub6tSEgyb WxMYEianmbTKHbHsqq94dwnptP6hBYDb/BbTxvatb/2vVIzAzWj6tIdfus4z0WIE xTUmvCO+5qD4DF7i0SwnjfD+kDvX/bdAYpdLs0U/DQ/EoaclFwYD4y0Cbaxr+rrZ cUSIUF5C3li4R9geZiFK64M/5BuIgThGTTi39NTMVv494qy/rejR7+GBQQi53fnr oq3kd+3Wg39vIndgjWPsB5BN2XStC8zoWDR6SDzBhYDLb2sDXo3xl9UE27Z6SUeR e9zQ9TEQ51Qn8Dm743L3vdqQhgfCSeej6rXYWOn6fdqIZK/7bwaEuTogia31m43f lk6lp8kXtuaubcJOMgPd7PqI+CYcVraXbKg+ZV4E2dEqBMQW4IC/7LyNXndWBPtE vbX9CUygQxmfylamQvcutbLgmTkAmylRCoPDb0sDHOJh0VaJ3WAgmDAVi0ye/C5A zmAh32y3cpm9A+bquL0TrMW0ntQS6MDoyCedk4wfIchBpozs5yTCP9oSef+/Tf49 Ovj0/QyMQSCMsxSukOp21ASKJfJnXrDkdyszXEtha/QRoQvPQkLVgCrLdhBIPXrl D3uVIsYpsejIwTa8gRRJneoUbIlRlq4ZKjf08KIKAThHpBJkTCBUjywmE/Imr55v cR/AXxvTFKz++Ci57+wj6BZ1p1OLmKX3n/0FZrS6euAFLvxcx/UqCZ3LPqiKjjJt Myn0WUWPZ6eVZgYh2luuop3zPrvBMUp8pU4YQuYv6aofzgKbdBoiCGjBuXg023FD +wHJQ6oN7aY0JRbGUcgdQjj07Yf4e6Ix4+Y+oEjfNcG01ipYfS1ta+32k2in/ZhO 5UZxiH8djpmlVJM5VT4knPLduuUAaAZbuS+iLnLcRBdDNiNzM/6jizg7E0VW9zwp 4xcin/E2EXDEnIDRoJO0ZQYcWMzBZLKH7Aq0uca+cj8/qCGEhtD5E274yTUSV1zX EFbC1CV30Vmjjgj3RWqBhxdzvJNs61lzSAd7tCabMmR7JEWJpecUQoAMFF8T+40E p66q1MGqYsZsCkIgD6tGFMPWjg8zpG4fGLxZiNsldyCycqBiCvqMmSX67HtSfbxM /T6UlVq83LwtJjm8wCQeDSJ/2lSFE7LNiGE8aCQdtQX2jIUegw+fW2Okl8pqsCjv siiCQwrtzYJVa7XMRH0AgsGOCylbBzP+0FDjNU84HpdMFsdVHWcQ/eMIYHfFYqE= =SVwV -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----