On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 01:03:51PM -0800, Ivan Zaigralin wrote: > On Thursday, November 10, 2016 12:13:56 Jaromil wrote: > > Now to respond to a recently raised concern about Trisquel's list of > > supported hardware, I believe this is different from offering a > > *medium of distribution*. While Trisquel uses ISO files and CD/DVD > > supports as mediums of distribution, Puri.sm does offer a > > pre-installed Laptop PC as medium of distribution which contains > > non-free software. Listing supported hardware is different and again > > there is h-node.org for that. > > Oh I understand the problem now. Still, it looks like there should be ways > around it. If a dedicated PureOS website provides an ISO which can be used > with any compatible laptop, is there a problem with mentioning Librem > hardware, or with Librem pre-installing PureOS? I would guess not.
The website page changed considerably in last days: https://puri.sm/pureos/ 1) They removed the navigation, so that there are no pointers to other parts of the website, but because people come anyway there, there is no sense in removing navigation. 2) They removed links to "our products". I don't think it is necesary to completely remove it, but I do think that re-wording would be useful. Those are some efforts shown. That is good, even I think not so necessary. It does not mean that above points are related to the Free System Distribution Guidelines. I just cannot get rid of a feeling in my guts, that the work on that website, including the OS is done not so wholeheartedly. I must say so. But does it matter? Not at all. We shall do what is possible that PureOS becomes a new endorsed FSF distribution. They have invested money into it, and money is effort, there is big effort behind, to make those things happen. There is need to replace some software, to replace some terminology, that is really not much to ask, and not hard to do. Even if not with pure heart, according to my personal feelings, who cares of it and my feelings? Let us have new free system distribution with that nice design and promotion. They just need more pushing to comply with the Free System Distribution Guidelines. They will comply, but due to few people working, it is not easy. and, why are my feelings so? 3) I would like to know more of their strategy of targeting "open source" groups: "PureOS is entirely free/libre and open-source, meaning you don’t have to trust our word that it respects and protects you—it is independently verifiable by security experts and software developers around the world" Is it entireley open-source or entirely free/libre? What is it? For me, it cannot be one or the other. So there are reasons of this kind of marketing, and reasons are those of sales targets. That is why it is not wholeharted, according to me. "open source" is a word for itself. It does not represent the free software. It is not an enemy, proprietary software is enemy. But when teaching about free software, and 4 freedoms, one shall really avoid such confusing terms, as it speaks then of different political direction named "Open Source". Read more: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_movement Jean Louis
