On 3/24/18 6:51 PM, bill-auger wrote: > > * pureos has a long-standing open request to remove chromium in > solidarity with the other FSDG distros - that issue is o/c a separate > can of worms; but i think all distros should be projecting a uniform > message, however vague the circumstance, until such controversies are > resolved - or *at the very least*, all distros affected by the > controversy should be participating in the discussions on this list
You have our tracker to comment on that and can't expect us to be all the time everywhere, especially not on list that proved itself as a bashing field. We do read it, we just don't jump anymore in discussions here as they tend to go south for various reasons that I don't want to spend time nor energy on it. Simply removing chromium is a disservice for average user and it shouldn't be a task taken easily. Also, while it would nice for distros to have solidarity with each other, that is not happening and PureOS is often taken into hostage situation most likely because it is funded by Purism which in my opinion should be celebrated that one commercial company is willing to put funds into such project and not the other way around. I have now fully requested removal and blockade of chromium package but next time please go to our bugtracker and report a bug there and start discussion (we are actively working on PureOS. Also all current PureOS staff are Debian Developers as well, we also have other duties so you can't take against us that we have lack of time and energy to be everywhere). https://tracker.pureos.net/T57 > > * then, the other can of worms regarding the debian kernel - if this is > what has been preventing connochaetos from being endorsed, then pureos > and any future candidates should be held to that same standard without > exception - again, at the very least, all distros affected by the > controversy should be expected to participate in the discussion on this list Debian kernel itself is entirely free but there was issues with messages that was brought to us and we worked on it both in PureOS and Debian at same time. https://tracker.pureos.net/T362 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=888405 > > admittedly, i have been kicking pureos a lot lately - mainly because i > have been hoping to see someone from pureos defend it - it seems quite > clear to me that no one from pureos is reading this list - i would > propose that one of the FSDG requirements should be for each distro to > elect a delegate to follow, if not actively participate in the > discussions on this list on behalf of the distro - and ideally, to stand > uniformly with the greater community in the grey areas of the FSDG such > as the current chromium issue and the debian kernel > Kicking PureOS is just doing disfavor to what are you trying - if you kick me don't expect me to be nice, that is not how things work especially in volunteer based projects. You are also doing false assumptions and that is again bringing me to first point - this list is toxic for no reason, if you can't work nicely you shouldn't work at all. You have bug tracker for PureOS if you want to work with PureOS community and not stretch us on dozen of sides. Z
