I have tried to unsubscribe from a political organization ( not this list, to avoid misinterpretation ) constantly sending me emails, and got a "MALCIOUS ATTACK ATTEMPT" warning when I did so
Thank you and best regards- _____________________________________ S. Mancini -----Original Message----- From: Hangout <hangout-boun...@nylxs.com> On Behalf Of Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 12:22 PM To: gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org Cc: J.B. Nicholson <j...@forestfield.org> Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] ru...@mrbrklyn.com: Please remove me from your hang...@nylxs.com or vill...@mrbrklyn.com mailing lists ATTENTION: This email came from an external source. Do not open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails. On 2020-02-24 17:34, J.B. Nicholson wrote: > Alexandre François Garreau wrote: >> It was, and it is not “tolerated”, this is bad faith: it is simply >> impossible to do anything about that. > > gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org list owners could remove ru...@mrbrklyn.com > from the list and make it clear that he won't be allowed back until he > has stopped sending unsolicited email to those who don't want it. It's not that technically simple. Firstly, certain e-mail addresses have already been harvested. The proverbial "horse has left the barn". The culprit can manually re-subscribe those addresses to his mailing list, without any connection to this mailing list. With those addresses, he has similar powers to those who peddle phishing scams or fake Rolex watches. The existing tools and infrastructure for dealing with that problem is also appropriate here. What that means is that the individual targets of the unsolicited messages have to apply local countermeasures. The list cannot possibly help with traffic that doesn't pass through it. Secondly, removals from mailing lists and other forms of blocking can be circumvented. There are ways to obtain new network identifiers such as e-mail addresses, domains and IP addresses. I've taken care of the problem locally; I don't see those NYLXS postings any more. I've done that without intending to filter out Ruben himself, I think. I can certainly see his gnu-misc-discuss postings. No sure about direct mail: that depends on to what extent it is co-located with the mailing list. If that's sent from the same host, then, oops! That's what you get for co-locating your mail identity with your spammy mailing list. > There is something that can be done. Apparently > gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org owners have chosen to do nothing about it and > therefore it is fair to say that ru...@mrbrklyn.com's behavior is > tolerated. With the way the discussion has heated up, the moderators are already busy just going through the messages. As a mere participant who doesn't read everything, this already sucked up so much of my precious little free time this past weekend that I didn't write a single line of code. If the moderators start spending their free time tuning and debugging main infrastructure components in an escalating battle of countermeasures against unsolicited mail (all without being able to put a dent in any of it which doesn't go through the list), the moderation will either fall behind, so that complainers will start kvetching about their posts appearing late, or else decline in quality, so that some blatant kind communication guideline violations will get through. _______________________________________________ Hangout mailing list hang...@nylxs.com https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=5e49d206-026fea38-5e4b2b33-000babda0031-299d2708be1ee0aa&q=1&e=3b1a12f5-8cd9-4df2-984e-7f2b26213866&u=http%3A%2F%2Flists.mrbrklyn.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhangout