David,

At 10:18 AM 7/18/00 -0700, you wrote:
>I have typeset a few hymns, and can give you some samples when I get home.
>Alas, I haven't figured out an ideal way of doing it.

Thanks very much!  I will share whatever I learn too.

>Separating the music from the words is a bit tricky.  Hymnals generally
>don't tie together eighth notes, but instead use a bar to indicate eighth
>notes that are tied together.  You can do this in mudela, but it makes the
>"automatic melisma" option not work properly (since they aren't tied).
>This means you have to either insert bogus empty syllables in the lyrics,
>or specify the rythm of the lyrics manually.  Either way, you won't be able
>to simply paste the lyrics from one melody into another.  :(

I see what you mean.  I didn't know about automatic melisma, I will read 
about it.  Maybe we can request a feature for lily to use bars OR ties for 
the melisma option.  Or else maybe a kind of "invisible tie"?  Otherwise, I 
might be able to write a perl program to insert the empty syllables as 
needed when the music and lyrics are combined.

>Hymnals generally are different from standard SATB harmony, and do seem to
>follow the above rules, although I'm not sure why.  It may be because they
>have to fit more music and words into a smaller space, so they sacrifice a
>bit of clarity to make it more compact.

yes I agree, it is for compactness.

>My solution generally involves changing the voice context ......

That's a good suggestion, I will try to do it that way.


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