Neil Williams schrieb:
Then main discussion of that change happened on IRC
I hate IRC - it's all the things I dislike about the telephone with none of
the benefits of email. It's intrusive (you have to be online when others are
online), it's invasive (it interrupts me in the middle of other things
instead of waiting until I'm ready) and it's non-archived (so nobody can
catch up with the IRC thread).
Agreed in principle. Also agreed that discussions concerning more than
one developer should therefore be done on -devel. I'll try again later.
so I assumed that after cleaning up this script good
enough then it should work for all circumstances. Sorry if that is not the
case.
Not yet. I find it unsatisfactory that this change has forced me to uninstall
software on my OSX box to fit in with the "streamlined" version.
I still don't understand why there wasn't any way for you to make that
work. The only fundamental difference between the old (and now reverted)
autogen.sh and my temporary new proposal was that the old one looks for
specific versions autoconf-2.53, autoheader-2.53, automake-1.5 and
aclocal-1.5 (the latter two optionally as 1.6 or 1.7). Then the
variables AUTOCONF et al were set to these programs. The new script, on
the other hand, simply used the available autoconf et al programs,
unless something else was passed as env variable. If you need to enforce
the old behaviour on OSX, then instead of
./autogen.sh
you should have called
AUTOCONF=autoconf-2.53 AUTOHEADER=autoheader-2.53 \
AUTOMAKE=automake-1.5 ACLOCAL=aclocal-1.5 ./autogen.sh
and then these explicit versions should have been enforced. No need to
uninstall anything. The comment in the new autogen.sh was supposed to
point you into that direction.
I have and it did not allow me to build gnucash on a system that had built it
under the old script. I had to actually uninstall certain auto tools which
has meant a MAJOR PITA for me because I am now completely unable to update
gnucash1.8 because the auto tools are too recent. I cannot build 1.8 with the
auto tools that G2 now needs.
Agreed that both might require different build tools, but not agreed
that you needed to uninstall any of those. That's why you can specify
different versioned program names.
Doesn't work on OSX. Tried that. The BSD versions get in the way. Just like
the 'sed' patch I've committed to trunk today, OSX needs to always use the
GNU versions and things will break when the BSD versions get in the way.
And even hard-coding a path (like AUTOCONF=/usr/bin-gnu/autoconf-2.53 or
whatever) didn't work? The old script did not even do that, only using
the versioned program names.
We've even got to the stage now that gnucash is advising OSX users to *modify
their PATH*! That's the bad old days of MS-DOS and Windows 3.1!!!
The old autogen.sh was already modifying the PATH during its script.
OTOH asking a user to modify a PATH if they want to use a particular
application IMHO isn't that unusual.
Christian
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