Wow! That would be very messy to track in GnuCash and even a challenge in a simple spreadsheet.
Do you have some other software designed to address this scenario? Can the fund manager give you a detailed report ? David C On Wed, Nov 14, 2018, 1:28 PM Christian Pinedo Zamalloa < chr.pin...@gmail.com wrote: > Hello, > > in our case, the capital/gain losses are delayed in fund transfers and > only considered when the share is sold. I would try to put a clearer > example: > > Fund A account > 1, 2010-1-1, buy 10 shares @ 10 €, gross/net buy 100 € > 2, 2015-1-1, transfer 10 shares @ 9 € to fund B, gross sell 90€ with 10€ > capital losses, net sell 10 shares @ 10 € = 100€ to obtain 0€ capital > gain/losess (capital/gain losses delayed because of a fund transfer) > > Fund B account > 1, 2013-1-1, buy 10 shares @ 20 €, gross/net by 200 € > 2, 2015-1-1, transfer 3 shares @ 30 € from fund A, gross buy 90€ with 10€ > capital losses forwarded from fund A, net buy 100€ (3 shares @ 33,333333 €) > > > Using net values per share instead of gross values I can track capital > gain/losses delayed because of transfers automatically with gnucash. > > Now If a want to sell Fund B shares: > > Fund B account > ...... > 3, 2018-11-14, sell 3 shares @ 25 € with 3 x 8,333333 € capital losses > > In this case, according to FIFO laws of my country I am selling the > transfered shares (2. transaction of Fund B). Becuase to order in time the > sells of shares I have to take into account where I bought initially shares > (2010-1-1) not when I transfer shares between funds (2015-1-1). So, this is > why it should be great to we able to order transactions of Fund B account > in the following way: > > Fund B account > 2, 2015-1-1, transfer 3 shares @ 30 € from fund A, gross buy 90€ with 10€ > capital losses forwarded from fund A, net buy 100€ (3 shares @ 33,333333 €) > 1, 2013-1-1, buy 10 shares @ 20 €, gross/net by 200 € > 3, 2018-11-14, sell 3 shares @ 25 € with 3 x 8,333333 € capital losses > > I hope it is now easier to understand my initial question. > > Thanks! > > > > El mié., 14 nov. 2018 a las 19:40, David Carlson (< > david.carlson....@gmail.com>) escribió: > >> If funds were used to buy a different security first then that security >> was >> sold for a withdrawal and intermediate gains matter unlike in U.S. >> custodial accounts, it could get very messy. >> >> David C >> >> On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 9:43 AM D <sunfis...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> > If OP is looking to track gains using FIFO, wouldn't the lots >> > functionality work for them? I believe that it uses FIFO exclusively... >> > >> > David T. >> > >> > On November 14, 2018, at 8:23 PM, David Carlson < >> > david.carlson....@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > I think that Christian is asking a slightly different question. I >> > interpret it that in one parent custodial mutual fund account he >> purchased >> > Fund A on dates 1, 2 and later then sold some or all of Fund A and >> bought >> > Fund B in the same custodial account on date 3. >> > >> > Now I am not sure if he needs to account for capital gain at that point >> or >> > later on date 4 when he actually withdraws the funds from the parent >> > custodial account. >> > >> > David C >> > >> > On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 8:05 AM Derek Atkins <de...@ihtfp.com> wrote: >> > >> > > Hi, >> > > >> > > On Wed, November 14, 2018 8:42 am, Christian Pinedo Zamalloa wrote: >> > > > Hello, >> > > > >> > > > I would like to know if it is possible to order manually the >> > transactions >> > > > of a mutual fund account. >> > > > >> > > > When I transfer suscriptions from one mutual fund to another one, >> the >> > > > order >> > > > of the transfer transaction depends on the date when the transfer >> was >> > > > done. >> > > > >> > > > However, it would be quite useful to reorder this transfer >> transaction >> > > > because according to FIFO laws for mutual funds in my country, >> > transfers >> > > > of >> > > > mutual funds mut be ordered according to the initial purchase not to >> > the >> > > > date of the transfer between funds. So: >> > > > >> > > > - Suscription of Fund A, date: 1, effective_date: 1 >> > > > - More Subscriptions, date: 2, effective_date: 2 >> > > > - Transfer of Fund A to Fund B, date: 3, effective_date: 1 >> > > >> > > GnuCash does have multiple dates, which include the post-date, >> > entry-date, >> > > reconcile-date.. but only one visible date: the post-date. >> > > >> > > You have two options: >> > > >> > > 1) You could set the post-date to date 3 and put date 1 in the >> transfer >> > > description, or >> > > 2) You can set the post-date to date 1 (and put date 3 in the >> > description). >> > > >> > > I can think of no other way to do what you want. >> > > >> > > Personally, (noting that IANAA), I would go with option 1. >> > > >> > > > Thanks! >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > Christian Pinedo >> > > >> > > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> > > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > > >> > > -derek >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 >> > > de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com >> > > Computer and Internet Security Consultant >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > gnucash-user mailing list >> > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> > > ----- >> > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > gnucash-user mailing list >> > gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> > ----- >> > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> ----- >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > > > -- > Christian Pinedo Zamalloa (zako) > PGP keyID: 0xdb577d4ee6ffbd55 > PGP Fgprt: A895 7C11 84F6 30B4 4938 32A4 9306 DFD0 CDE4 B542 > _______________________________________________ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. ----- Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. 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