Peter,

I don’t generally maintain a working Windows system for testing and I probably 
can’t acquire a Win10 system easily though I have access to Win7. I can play 
around a bit, but otherwise, can’t help more—very sorry, maybe there is another 
Win10 user out there using the budget module on a regular basis who can chime 
in.

As for bugs/RFEs, your best bet is to simply file them, the sooner the better. 
It is possible one of the current developers is familiar with that particular 
part of the code and can jump right in. There’s also the possibility this is a 
section of code that doesn’t have an active maintainer and the solution might 
take more time. But at least a bug report will document and time-stamp the 
issue.

The budget module has seen very little ‘development’ as far as I can tell from 
its original implementation. I think it has only seen minor bug fixes. If you 
have some improvement RFEs, please submit them to scope the use case(s) that 
the developers can use if they tackle the project.

As for timeline, I think the developers have mentioned a few times here and on 
the gnucash-dev list that their current focus is cleaning up transition bugs 
from the migration away from 2.6.x and gtk2. When that is done, they intend to 
get back on track with the general development course outlined on the wiki. 
RFEs will follow after that unless they are really simple to implement on a 
quicker time frame. Of course, if any of the developers chime in with other 
info, their word holds, I’m just a daily user who helps out a bit in the 
community on the mailing list.

Regards,
Adrien
> On Dec 18, 2018, at 6:06 PM, Peter088 <peter...@petermacdonough.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Adrien,
> 
> I'm running Windows 10.  Everything is up to date.
> 
> Thanks for your help.  I was able to find the scroll bar.  It acts the same 
> over here.
> 
> Unfortunately, the left and right arrows do not seem to work in Windows to 
> move the screen.   I also tried all combinations with Shift, Control, Alt and 
> the Page Up and Page Down keys, but nothing worked.  Also, the headings 
> (Accounts) don't freeze when you scroll, so I'm spending and enormous amount 
> of time trying to hit the scroll bar in exactly the right spot.
> 
> There seem to be quite a number of obvious features missing/not working in 
> the budgeting area.  What are the chances of any changes in this area being 
> implemented in a reasonable period of time, assuming I file all the requests? 
>  I'm a bit surprised given that GNUCash has been around for 20 years that 
> these things haven't been addressed.
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gnucash-user 
> [mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+peter088=petermacdonough....@gnucash.org] On 
> Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone
> Sent: Friday, 14 December 2018 6:02 AM
> To: Gnucash Users
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Budget Issue
> 
> It might not matter, but what OS are you using?
> 
> I’m on a Mac, the scrollbar is not visible at first. If I move my mouse down 
> to the bottom of the screen, a very slim scroll bar appears over the bottom 
> of the summary section. As I get closer to the scroll bar, it gets thicker so 
> it is an easier target for my mouse.
> 
> Tabbing from a cell, say in September’s column, does not move the display to 
> show where the focused cell is. (likely a bug)
> 
> But using the arrow keys does shift the other columns into view for me. (this 
> is once I’m already in a cell in the far right visible column)
> 
> You can drag and re-size the Accounts column right-hand border to the left, 
> which depending on your tree depth and account name length, might get you all 
> or most of the year (and total column) visible. The individual month columns 
> are not resizable. Again, another ‘bug’ but likely a ‘feature enhancement’. 
> (unless older versions allowed re-sizing, then it is a bug)
> 
> Also, the column names are not editable. You could file that in Bugzilla as a 
> RFE (Request for Enhancement).
> 
> The issue with the disappearing Expenses is fixable with the filter.
> 
> The filter is on the ‘view’ of the particular budget you are viewing. (notice 
> it is in the ‘View’ menu) It is not a preference of the budget. (thus not in 
> ‘Options’)
> 
> You have to reset the filter each time you open the budget. It would be nice 
> to specify custom default filters for the budget so you don’t have to keep 
> resetting them. (you could file another RFE on that, but I recall it might be 
> filed already, you’ll need to check first.) As an alternative, just keep that 
> tab open until your work is done. (I leave GnuCash open 24/7 as I use it 
> daily)
> 
> The reason your expenses ‘disappeared’ is because you *also* need to reset 
> the filter to ’Show unused accounts’.
> 
> I just tested filtering only Expenses with an unused account and its parent 
> (also unused) and the budget did not contain them (and would have been empty 
> if I had an empty book) until I set that option in the filter. So you need to 
> set both options in both tabs of the filter. You’re telling the view to show 
> you only expense accounts *and* you want to see unused accounts. (which are 
> all of your accounts at this time)
> 
> No worries on the questions, I’m happy to help. The Budget Module is not 
> documented well (contributions welcome) and it has some quirks that aren’t 
> intuitive. One of those is that it does not honor the ‘reverse balance 
> accounts’ setting properly. You may notice that credit accounts are the 
> reverse of what you expect when dealing with the budget. I think it may even 
> treat them differently in the budget screen than it does in the budget 
> report. Be sure to visit Bugzilla and read over any bugs assigned to the 
> Budget Module to get an overview of possible issues you may encounter.
> 
> You may also want to take a look at this thread about navigating the Budget 
> using the keyboard: 
> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2018-August/079065.html
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 13, 2018, at 12:32 AM, Peter088 <peter...@petermacdonough.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Adrien.  Much appreciated.  You've solved that issue and I have more
>> I'm afraid.
>> 
>> I'm defining a budget to be 12 1-month periods.  The screen is only wide
>> enough to display 9.  I don't see a scroll bar and tabbing doesn't seem to
>> move the display, nor do the arrows.  I also don't seem to be able to adjust
>> the column widths, as I really don't need as much space as they've
>> allocated.  Can you tell me how to modify the display please?  For example,
>> is there a way to edit the labels on the budget periods?  Can I shrink the
>> column widths.  Is there a way to scroll left and right through the budget?
>> 
>> 
>> Also, I'm unclear how the filter works.  The default filter selected all
>> account types.  I'm only interested in Expenses, but when I cleared them all
>> and selected only Expenses, all my accounts disappeared from view including
>> the Expense accounts.  
>> 
>> I'm sorry to ask so many questions, but I can't find this stuff in the
>> documentation.  It doesn't seem to go to this level of detail.  Perhaps
>> there is another place to look?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gnucash-user
>> [mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+peter088=petermacdonough....@gnucash.org] On
>> Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone
>> Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2018 12:27 PM
>> To: Gnucash Users
>> Subject: Re: [GNC] Budget Issue
>> 
>> Peter,
>> 
>> Did you not see my last reply to this issue concerning grid lines and blank
>> child cells vs. parent cell totals?
>> 
>> Also, no need to start a new thread on the same question. It will be hard
>> for others to follow along and see what resolved it for you in the future.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2018, at 6:05 PM, Peter088 <peter...@petermacdonough.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm a new user coming from Quicken.  I'm trying to create a budget and
>> have
>>> the filters set to Show Unused and Show Zero Total accounts, but I cannot
>>> see a lot of the expense accounts.  I am still not seeing any cells/values
>>> for the lowest nested level of each account.  For example,
>>> Expenses:Auto:Licensing shows an editable cell in the budget at the Auto
>>> level even though there are no transactions in that account, but not at
>> the
>>> Licensing level.  This is consistent across all the Expense accounts.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Is there a way around this?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Peter
>>> 
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