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In what account is the 2.80 debit? In which account (and so which currency) did you create the transaction? A side note, have you considered/tried enabling trading accounts? Some users who operate in multiple currencies find them useful. Regards, John Ralls > On Aug 15, 2019, at 7:54 AM, Jeff Abrahamson <j...@p27.eu> wrote: > > Apparently the mailing list strips images, even very tiny ones. > > The first image simply showed Transferwise associating 5.70 CFH = 4.67 GBP. > > The second showed that gnucash is creating a correcting split in the > transaction I'd entered: > > 512452_Transferwise CHF 5.70 > 6212_cafe 5.70 > 512452_Transferwise CHF 5.70 > 51245_Transferwise 5.70 > 2.80 > > And that 2.80 is rather odd. > > Jeff Abrahamson > > > On 15/08/2019 16:38, Jeff Abrahamson wrote: >> I purchased a coffee in Switzerland using my GBP-based Transferwise >> card. That card could hold a CHF balance, but on that day it held only >> GBP. My local currency is EUR. So I can think of my coffee purchase as >> two FX transactions: funding (GBP -> CHF) and an expense (CHF -> EUR). >> >> What Transferwise tells me is the amount of the purchase and the amount >> of the transaction. (I can also poke further and find the exchange rate >> they used and the minuscule fee, but the important point to me is the >> the two endpoints.) >> >> Now what makes sense to me based on reading about accounting principles >> for multiple currencies is that I should make one transaction thus: >> >> Coffee (CHF) <-- Bank (GBP) # This is the funding part of >> the transaction. >> Expense acct <-- Coffee (CHF) # Here I'm tracking the actual >> expense. >> >> I put those in a single transaction for easier understanding later. >> Here I've created a bank account for Transferwise (GBP) as well as >> subaccounts of that called Transferwise_CHF and some others, denominated >> in the indicated currencies. Those three accounts are transfer >> accounts: I usually expect them to have zero balance. >> >> Transferwise_CHF <-- Transferwise (GBP) # This is the >> funding part of the transaction. >> Expense/cafe <-- Transferwise_CHF # Here I'm tracking >> the actual expense. >> >> Gnucash asks me for some exchange rates, and I answer for the CHF - GBP >> part with the specific numbers provided by Transferwise and for the GBP >> - EUR part with the exchange rate I've downloaded for that date. >> >> I expect to see this in the account Transferwise_CHF >> >> 5.70 <-- 5.70 # This is the funding part of the transaction. >> 5.70 <-- 5.70 # Here I'm tracking the actual expense. >> >> and this in the Transferwise (GBP) account >> >> 4.67 <-- 4.67 # This is the funding part of the transaction. >> 4.67 <-- 4.67 # Here I'm tracking the actual expense. >> >> and something similar looking at the splits in the (euro-denominated >> expense account). >> >> But what I see (from the perspective of the CHF account) is this, which >> makes no sense to me: >> >> Gnucash has entered the 2.80, and deleting that split just makes it pop >> up again. Something is terribly wrong if any account's view of the >> transaction doesn't balance. (This is gnucash 3.4, ubuntu, build id >> 3.4+ (2018-12-30). >> >> Is this my error or a bug in gnucash? Any pointers? >> >> >> Somewhat related, I thought to import historical currencies, as I'm back >> filling some data for analysis purposes. I grabbed 10 years of daily >> quotes and imported them (3600 or so rows of data per currency). All ok >> for GBP - EUR. When I do the same for CHF - EUR, gnucash says it's done >> it, but the price database doesn't show more than a handful. When I do >> it for JPY - EUR, gnucash says it's done but the price editor shows none >> of them. The proposed exchange rates when entering transactions are >> consistent with what the price editor thinks it knows. >> >> Is there a limit on FX rates? (This is about 4000, which doesn't strike >> me as terribly large.) >> > -- > > Jeff Abrahamson > +33 6 24 40 01 57 > +44 7920 594 255 > > http://p27.eu/jeff/ > http://transport-nantes.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > gnucash-user mailing list > email@example.com > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > ----- > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. _______________________________________________ gnucash-user mailing list firstname.lastname@example.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. ----- Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.