As long as your accountant is happy with it.

On Wed, 1 Apr 2020, 7:14 pm JV, <jal...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Thankyou!  I obviously have a lot to learn about accounting still!  I'll
> have a play with this to see if it fixes my issues.  It seems to from a
> quick test data file I created.  On your other point, under Equity I
> created an account structure as follows:
>
> Equity
>     Owner's equity
>         Owner's deposits
>         Owner's withdrawals
>
> to try and capture the fact that I've been using personal money injections
> to make purchases while I'm starting up my business.  So the screenshot I
> sent through shows me using personal money to pay for a cellphone charge.
> Is there a better way of accounting to capture this?
>
> On 1/04/20 11:41 pm, Christopher Lam wrote:
>
> Bingo. Everything is wrong about it :) You should probably input this
> purchase from the bank account or credit card that you used to pay for it.
> It should be similar to:
>
> [image: image.png]
>
>
> On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 10:30, JV <jal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've attached a screenshot which shows the purchase data of a typical
>> expense entry.  Please let me know if I've entered the data in the wrong
>> columns.
>>
>> On 1/04/20 11:06 pm, Christopher Lam wrote:
>>
>> Please remember to cc the mailing list for all replies.
>>
>> Now we've established you are on credit-accounts, the amounts showing
>> negative means you have likely entered the GST on Purchase data incorrectly.
>>
>> On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 09:58, JV <jal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for your help.  I wasn't aware of the
>>> Preferences>Accounts>Reverse Balanced Accounts feature but you're right -
>>> that was my setting.  I still don't understand why GNUCash is handling the
>>> values the way it is. I've pretty much got the structure you suggested:
>>>
>>> GST [Liability]
>>> GST:Collected on Sales [Liability]
>>> GST:Paid on Purchases [Asset]
>>> GST:Paid to IRD [Asset]
>>>
>>> Except that I figure that the GST I've paid to the tax department (IRD)
>>> so far should be an asset (please correct me if I'm wrong).  But for some
>>> reason whatever I change the account type to for these values (liability or
>>> asset), it doesn't seem to affect the top-level account sum total at all.
>>>
>>> On 1/04/20 10:31 pm, Christopher Lam wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> (Screenshot containing private data snipped)
>>>
>>> The first rule here is that support emails are always public because
>>> others may want to help.
>>>
>>> It seems you have set the Preferences > Accounts > Reverse Balanced
>>> accounts to 'Credit accounts' which is fine.
>>>
>>> It also seems that the GST Paid and GST Returns filed are negative --
>>> depending on the preference above, this may be fine; but the parent account
>>> adding the values as described would suggest that they may be incorrect
>>> account type.
>>>
>>> It seems your GST Sales > GST Purchases, so, I'd suggest the following
>>> structure, with top-level GST account:
>>>
>>> GST [Liability]
>>> GST:Collected on Sales [Liability]
>>> GST:Paid on Purchases [Asset]
>>> GST:Paid to IRD [Liability]
>>>
>>> Thus all values would usually be positive with 'credit accounts'
>>> reversal option.
>>>
>>> You can also try the "Income & GST Statement" report to assist with your
>>> periodic filing.
>>>
>>> On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 09:02, JV <jal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That would be great!  Sorry, I'm also new to these support mailing
>>>> lists
>>>> so please let me know if I'm meant to be looking for support elsewhere
>>>> or in a different format.
>>>>
>>>> I've attached a screenshot to give you some insight.  I don't
>>>> understand
>>>> why it's adding up the absolute values of the GST figures rather than
>>>> giving the assets (GST paid & GST returns filed) a positive value and
>>>> liabilities (GST collected) a negative value. The 'GST payable to IRD'
>>>> in my mind should be GST collected minus GST paid minus GST returns
>>>> filed.  Thanks for much for your help - it's starting to do my head in!
>>>>
>>>> On 1/04/20 9:45 pm, Christopher Lam wrote:
>>>> > Maybe you can share your account structure or a data file with sample
>>>> data,
>>>> > and we can try make it work? The documentation is still behind the
>>>> > reporting capability.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, 1 Apr 2020, 4:08 pm Jacob Verbeek, <
>>>> jacobv.consulta...@gmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Hi,
>>>> >> I'm a new user of GNUCash for my fledgling consulting business.  I
>>>> love
>>>> >> the program but can just not get GST to work the way I want to (New
>>>> >> Zealand).  I've read all the documentation I can find on it. I've
>>>> gone
>>>> >> with the 3-account system but GNUCash seems to just add up the
>>>> absolute
>>>> >> value of the numbers I enter into each category, disregarding whether
>>>> >> they have a positive or negative value; changing the account type to
>>>> >> asset/liability doesn't seem to make any difference.  It's probably
>>>> >> something really simple and dumb but I just can't seem to fix it.
>>>> How
>>>> >> do I go about getting some support to resolve this issue?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Much appreciated,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> JACOB
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 022 0264943
>>>> >> jacobv.consulta...@gmail.comm
>>>> >> www.about.me/jacobverbeek
>>>> >>
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