Yes there is a way of doing it in Version 4.4. I just did the same thing
so I could put all my securities from my past 401K into a namespace I
called STALE. I did that because I wasn't ever going to do anything with
them again and I wanted them out of the way.
To move one security from one namespace to another namespace.
Bring up the Security Editor*Tools-->Security Editor*. This will bring
up the *Securities* window.
In the *Securities *window select the security you want to move and hit
the *EDIT* button. This will bring up the *Edit Security* tool.
The fourth item down is a drop-down list labeled *TYPE.* Select the one
you want to put the selected security under then hit *OK*.
But first if you don't already have a namespace you want to move a
security to, in your case *MISC*, you're going to have create one. This
is how to do it.
When adding a new security *Tools -> Security Editor -> Add*, there is a
drop-down to select the namespace labelled "Type". This field is also an
input box, and the value for a new namespace can be typed into the field
while creating the new security. When the security is added, a new
namespace will appear on the list of *"*Types*"* in the future.
When I did this a created a temporary security called zxzx so I could
created the new namespace. After I move a real security to it I then
removed zxzx.
I think the namespace is there so you can categorize you securities.
That can be very helpful when setting prices so a given security is
easier to find.
Hope this helps.
Jack
On 3/22/21 12:26 AM, Steven Anter wrote:
John
I have 60 securities that I'd like to move from various namespaces to a
single namespace called "MISC". Do I have to do them individually? Or is
there a way to do them all at once?
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No problem, you can arrange non-currency commodities in namespaces however
you like and you can change a non-currency commodity's namespace in
Tools>Security Editor.
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On Mar 21, 2021, at 7:09 PM, Steven Anter <[email protected]> wrote:
The newer releases of gnucash now require a namespace to import prices
from
a csv file. This is rather cumbersome because my securities are spread
out
over a few namespaces. The notion of "namespace" is irrelevant to the
way I use gnucash; if I could bypass I would. Perhaps there is a way I
can
change all securities to have the same namespace of "MISC" If there is,
please let me know
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6. Re: mortgage refinance (D)
7. Re: mortgage refinance (Peter West)
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9. Re: mortgage refinance (Derek Atkins)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 12:57:19 -0400
From: David Ridell <[email protected]>
To: John Ralls <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GNC] Had to download application again
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Thank you!
David
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:30 PM, John Ralls <[email protected]> wrote:
?
On Mar 18, 2021, at 4:04 PM, David Ridell via gnucash-user <
[email protected]> wrote:
I had to reboot my MacBook Air. This caused my Gnucash
application/program file (is that the correct description?) to be
deleted.
I had to re-download the application. Did I do something wrong when I
re-booted?
My Gnucash ?drive? appears to as an external drive??see attached
screen
shot.
No, rebooting did not cause anything to be deleted. Your screenshot
didn't come through, but your external drive comment leads me to guess
that
you were running GnuCash from the mounted disk image. You didn't need to
re-download it, you could remount it by double-clicking on
Gnucash-Intel-4.4-1.dmg in your Downloads folder.
But GnuCash doesn't work all that well from the dmg (no mac application
does) so you're supposed to drag it from there to the Applications
folder
before running it. Once you've done that you can eject the disk image
(control click and select eject or use the eject symbol next to the disk
image name in Finder's sidebar).
Regards,
John Ralls
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2021 01:09:25 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Cousens <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GNC] CSV matching produces duplicates?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
The matching of the account names in the input records (whether transfer
accounts or the main account for the transaction) to the GnuCash
internal
accounts only happens for the first time those accounts occur in an
input
data file. After that GnuCash remembers the assignment of external
account
names to its internal account names and will only bring that dialog up
when
it encounters an account name in the input file which has not previously
been matched.
The other part of the matching procedures looks for duplicates, matching
records to be updated and when no transfer file has been imported in the
data file it tries to find similar record imported in the past and will
if
it gets a sufficient match, assign the same transfer account to the
record
being imported
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2021 09:25:25 -0400
From: Parker Graham <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [GNC] mortgage refinance
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Have mortgage set up in system but refinanced it and need help on how to
payoff existing loan and set up new loan
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2021 06:36:55 -0700
From: <[email protected]>
To: "'Parker Graham'" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [GNC] mortgage refinance
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Several ways to do this. Here is the easiest way I know:
Mortgage Loan (start loan B) Increase - Loan Amount
Mortgage Loan (start loan B) Decrease -Principal Amount
remaining
from Loan A
Net result - New loan amount before first payment. Now the two entries
are
actually the net result of a split transaction entry that comes right
from
the closing statement received from the mortgage company. If you follow
that statement - you should be good to go.
Hope that helps.
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Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2021 6:25 AM
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Subject: [GNC] mortgage refinance
Have mortgage set up in system but refinanced it and need help on how to
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2021 09:41:46 -0400
From: Parker Graham <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [GNC] mortgage refinance
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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not following, please give me example such as original loan is
100,000.00 refi loan is 105,000.00
thanks
On 3/21/21 9:36 AM, [email protected] wrote:
Several ways to do this. Here is the easiest way I know:
Mortgage Loan (start loan B) Increase - Loan Amount
Mortgage Loan (start loan B) Decrease -Principal Amount
remaining
from Loan A
Net result - New loan amount before first payment. Now the two entries
are
actually the net result of a split transaction entry that comes right
from
the closing statement received from the mortgage company. If you
follow
that statement - you should be good to go.
Hope that helps.
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Behalf Of Parker Graham
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2021 6:25 AM
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Subject: [GNC] mortgage refinance
Have mortgage set up in system but refinanced it and need help on how
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2021 09:42:01 -0400
From: D <[email protected]>
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Cc: "D. via gnucash-user" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [GNC] mortgage refinance
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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New loan gets a new liability account. Transaction from new loan top old
loan pays off old loan. Old loan goes to zero, is reconciled, and can be
set as placeholder and hidden, if desired. Future transactions pay new
loan.
On Mar 21, 2021, 09:26, at 09:26, Parker Graham <[email protected]> wrote:
Have mortgage set up in system but refinanced it and need help on how
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 00:07:43 +1000
From: Peter West <[email protected]>
To: D <[email protected]>
Cc: Parker Graham <[email protected]>, "D. via gnucash-user"
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [GNC] mortgage refinance
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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What?s the other side of the new loan set-up? Cash at bank?
So
Liability Loan A 100,000 Cr
Liability Loan B 105,000 Cr
Asset Bank 105,000 Dr
Then
Asset Bank 100,000 Cr -> 5,000 Dr
Liability Loan A 100,000 Dr -> Zero balance
Liability Loan B 105,000 Dr
Like that?
Peter
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On 21 Mar 2021, at 11:42 pm, D via gnucash-user <
[email protected]> wrote:
New loan gets a new liability account. Transaction from new loan top
old
loan pays off old loan. Old loan goes to zero, is reconciled, and can be
set as placeholder and hidden, if desired. Future transactions pay new
loan.
On Mar 21, 2021, 09:26, at 09:26, Parker Graham <[email protected]> wrote:
Have mortgage set up in system but refinanced it and need help on how
to
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2021 10:08:19 -0400
From: "Derek Atkins" <[email protected]>
To: "Parker Graham" <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected], [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GNC] mortgage refinance
Message-ID:
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Let's say your old loan has $95,000 remaining.
Your new loan is $105,000
I am ignoring loan costs, interest prepays, escrow, etc.
You would create a transaction:
Loan Payout Old Loan Debit $95000
New Loan Credit $105000
Cash Debit $10000
I.e., you will Increase cash $10k, and then pay off the old loan and
take
out the new loan.
-derek
On Sun, March 21, 2021 9:41 am, Parker Graham wrote:
not following, please give me example such as original loan is
100,000.00 refi loan is 105,000.00
thanks
On 3/21/21 9:36 AM, [email protected] wrote:
Several ways to do this. Here is the easiest way I know:
Mortgage Loan (start loan B) Increase - Loan Amount
Mortgage Loan (start loan B) Decrease -Principal Amount
remaining
from Loan A
Net result - New loan amount before first payment. Now the two
entries
are
actually the net result of a split transaction entry that comes right
from
the closing statement received from the mortgage company. If you
follow
that statement - you should be good to go.
Hope that helps.
-----Original Message-----
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On
Behalf Of Parker Graham
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2021 6:25 AM
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Subject: [GNC] mortgage refinance
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2021 10:13:25 -0400
From: "Derek Atkins" <[email protected]>
To: "Peter West" <[email protected]>
Cc: "D" <[email protected]>, "D. via gnucash-user"
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [GNC] mortgage refinance
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Peter,
On Sun, March 21, 2021 10:07 am, Peter West wrote:
What?s the other side of the new loan set-up? Cash at bank?
So
Liability Loan A 100,000 Cr
Liability Loan B 105,000 Cr
Asset Bank 105,000 Dr
This is wrong -- your Debits and Credits don't sum to zero.
Then
Asset Bank 100,000 Cr -> 5,000 Dr
Liability Loan A 100,000 Dr -> Zero balance
Liability Loan B 105,000 Dr
Like that?
I think I understand what you are trying to say, and *I'm* very confused
by what you are saying!!!
-derek
Peter
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cast out.?
On 21 Mar 2021, at 11:42 pm, D via gnucash-user
<[email protected]> wrote:
New loan gets a new liability account. Transaction from new loan top
old
loan pays off old loan. Old loan goes to zero, is reconciled, and can
be
set as placeholder and hidden, if desired. Future transactions pay new
loan.
On Mar 21, 2021, 09:26, at 09:26, Parker Graham <[email protected]>
wrote:
Have mortgage set up in system but refinanced it and need help on how
to
payoff existing loan and set up new loan
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 00:20:06 +1000
From: Peter West <[email protected]>
To: Derek Atkins <[email protected]>
Cc: D <[email protected]>, "D. via gnucash-user"
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [GNC] mortgage refinance
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
On 22 Mar 2021, at 12:13 am, Derek Atkins <[email protected]> wrote:
Peter,
On Sun, March 21, 2021 10:07 am, Peter West wrote:
What?s the other side of the new loan set-up? Cash at bank?
So
Liability Loan A 100,000 Cr
Liability Loan B 105,000 Cr
Asset Bank 105,000 Dr
This is wrong -- your Debits and Credits don't sum to zero.
Loan A is an existing loan, so that is just eh current balance on Loan
A.
I should have shown that somehow, but I was assuming an existing loan.
Then
Asset Bank 100,000 Cr -> 5,000 Dr
Liability Loan A 100,000 Dr -> Zero balance
Liability Loan B 105,000 Dr
Like that?
I think I understand what you are trying to say, and *I'm* very
confused
by what you are saying!!!
-derek
Peter
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On 21 Mar 2021, at 11:42 pm, D via gnucash-user
<[email protected]> wrote:
New loan gets a new liability account. Transaction from new loan top
old
loan pays off old loan. Old loan goes to zero, is reconciled, and can
be
set as placeholder and hidden, if desired. Future transactions pay
new
loan.
On Mar 21, 2021, 09:26, at 09:26, Parker Graham <[email protected]>
wrote:
Have mortgage set up in system but refinanced it and need help on
how
to
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2021 07:38:53 -0700
From: <[email protected]>
To: "'Derek Atkins'" <[email protected]>, "'Parker Graham'"
<[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [GNC] mortgage refinance
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Parker -- for the case I was demonstrating, the old loan amount is not
pertinent since you have been paying it down. I keep track of the
principal balance still remaining in the loan - so if the original loan
was
$100,000, the actual principal amount still due is less than that since
you
have been paying the loan down. Notice - in Derek case he is also not
taking into account the old loan amount, since, the old loan amount is
not
pertinent; but instead talking about the remaining principal balance --
which is very pertinent.
So in my case - I have the exact principal amount due on my existing
loan. So keeping with Derek example, let's say, for your example, that
amount is $95,000 remaining principal balance.
Old Mortgage loan account --- Increase transaction - (new loan)
$105,000.
Since my mortgage account shows the $95,000 still remaining, this shows
a
temporary balance of $200,000 ( the amount of the new loan and the
amount
of the still remaining principal balance of the old loan).
Now I credit this same account (decrease transaction) the amount the
bank
paid off from the old loan (the remaining principal balance of $95,000).
The next result is the balance is now the total principal balance of the
new loan $105,000.
As I said, there are several way to do this and a lot depends on what
accounts you have setup and how you have them setup. For me, this is
the
easiest way to keep the same account, and just replace the old loan with
the new loan. The split transaction I have to do this includes various
accounts and amounts for the expenses included in the closing statement
--
but the net affect is the mortgage account changes from the old
outstanding
principal balance to the new one. And as I make payments in the future,
the principal balance is decreased by the principal portion of my
payment
and the interest goes to an interest expense account to keep track of my
deductible interest (in a separate account).
This is the long answer to essentially say I just replace the old
principal balance for the new principal balance.
-----Original Message-----
From: Derek Atkins <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2021 7:08 AM
To: Parker Graham <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GNC] mortgage refinance
Let's say your old loan has $95,000 remaining.
Your new loan is $105,000
I am ignoring loan costs, interest prepays, escrow, etc.
You would create a transaction:
Loan Payout Old Loan Debit $95000
New Loan Credit $105000
Cash Debit $10000
I.e., you will Increase cash $10k, and then pay off the old loan and
take
out the new loan.
-derek
On Sun, March 21, 2021 9:41 am, Parker Graham wrote:
not following, please give me example such as original loan is
100,000.00 refi loan is 105,000.00
thanks
On 3/21/21 9:36 AM, [email protected] wrote:
Several ways to do this. Here is the easiest way I know:
Mortgage Loan (start loan B) Increase - Loan Amount
Mortgage Loan (start loan B) Decrease -Principal Amount
remaining
from Loan A
Net result - New loan amount before first payment. Now the two
entries are actually the net result of a split transaction entry that
comes right from the closing statement received from the mortgage
company. If you follow that statement - you should be good to go.
Hope that helps.
-----Original Message-----
From: gnucash-user <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Parker Graham
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2021 6:25 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [GNC] mortgage refinance
Have mortgage set up in system but refinanced it and need help on how
to payoff existing loan and set up new loan
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