Thank you David Cousens for your reply, I have studied it to great benefit. One question I have is whether the mainfile can be automatically stored in its own directory through a setting, or if I need to move the mainfile to its own directory manually. Also, should this be done on a regular basis, or only when attempting to recover from a crash.
Dan On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 1:03 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > Send gnucash-user mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of gnucash-user digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: OneDrive and GnuCash (Gerald) > 2. Re: Exiting GNUCash (Gyle McCollam) > 3. Re: OneDrive and GnuCash (Gyle McCollam) > 4. Re: Exiting GNUCash (David Carlson) (Kalpesh Patel) > 5. Bug 798423 - IMPORT QIF crashes on a Quicken transaction > Reminder (NOT a scheduled reminder) (Steve Conley) > 6. Re: Gnucash via Flatpak-Issues-Solutions (Les) > 7. Re: Gnucash via Flatpak-Issues-Solutions (Les) > 8. Re: Using logs for recovery ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 19:06:24 +0000 > From: Gerald <[email protected]> > Cc: Gnucash Users <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [GNC] OneDrive and GnuCash > Message-ID: > < > caggqdutrdpsn6zs+eh4aujv2d2-1x_+eix1w7-ue1y2x87f...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I use gnucash in Windows 10 in my OneDrive folder. Occasionally (less that > once a month) I'll get a file locked message when starting GC but I just > delete the lock file in the folder and it's all fine. > > Aside from that I have no other file or save issues. > > I also backup the GC folder in OneDrive to Google Drive, because I'm > paranoid! > > > > > > > On Tue, 18 Jan 2022, 19:01 Jesse MacDougall, <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Are you running gnu cash locally and the data from onedrive? > > I have not used one drive personally but I did use Quickbooks to Dropbox > in > > real time and that was total fail. > > > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:52 AM David Carlson < > > [email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > Are there any GnuCash users that store their data files in One Drive? > > > > > > Are there any issues slow response or keeping a few weeks of backup and > > log > > > files? > > > _______________________________________________ > > > gnucash-user mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > > ----- > > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > > > > > > -- > > * Please consider adding [email protected] to your address book. > > This > > will be my new address. This gmail address is being retired. > > _______________________________________________ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > [email protected] > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > ----- > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 19:27:56 +0000 > From: Gyle McCollam <[email protected]> > To: D. <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash > Message-ID: > < > blapr06mb680219543248ffb6ac292ef9ca...@blapr06mb6802.namprd06.prod.outlook.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > First, I would like to say that when I was referring to clicking the "x" > it was for GNUCash, which the brings up the dialog for "Save/Close without > Saving/Cancel". However, if I click the cancel button it "crashes" as > well. Also, even if I click the Save, it does the same thing. All > instances "crash" GNUCash and any entries not saved since the last > automatic save are lost. I also feel it has nothing to do with OneDrive as > it worked fine until this last problem. > > > Thank You, > Gyle McCollam > > Gyle McCollam > > 609.680.2326 Mobile > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> email > > ________________________________ > From: D. <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:46 PM > To: David Carlson <[email protected]> > Cc: Gyle McCollam <[email protected]>; D. via gnucash-user < > [email protected]> > Subject: Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash > > David, > > That's off topic. And I don't use OneDrive. Better to start a different > topic. > > David T. > ________________________________ > From: David Carlson > Sent: Tue Jan 18 13:42:16 EST 2022 > To: "D." > Cc: Gyle McCollam , "D. via gnucash-user" > Subject: Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash > > David T, > > Is One Drive able to hide all the file system lags that it introduces from > programs like GnuCash? If so, I need to consider using it. That is why I > am asking for more comments here. > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 12:11 PM D. < [email protected]<mailto: > [email protected]>> wrote: > David, > > What Gyle is describing has nothing to do with OneDrive. Gnucash shouldn't > exit the program when he closes the "Save/Close without Saving/Cancel" > dialog box by clicking the "X" for the dialog-- and it sure shouldn't leave > the lock file in place when it does so. That the lock file still exists > supports the idea of a crash. > > Gyle: what happens if you click Cancel? > > David T. > ________________________________ > From: David Carlson > Sent: Tue Jan 18 12:01:53 EST 2022 > To: Gyle McCollam > Cc: " [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" > Subject: Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash > > > That is an issue with the way you have your file system organized, but it > is not necessarily bad or wrong, just an artifact, I think. I do not use > OneDrive or equivalent yet myself because I have not decided how to manage > that very issue of the lag while background updates are happening to my > data file storage system. > > You are getting that lock warning because your OneDrive has not caught up > with you yet. If you open anyway, you are burdening the OneDrive with more > work to keep the data intact, and I do not know if it can handle that, thus > I do not try it. Perhaps other users of that type of arrangement can give > us their experience.That is probably also the cause of the Save Changes > warning. That may actually lose your recent work just as warned. Again, > perhaps others have experience with OneDrive. > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:38 AM Gyle McCollam <[email protected]<mailto: > [email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > David, Hopefully I can clarify what is happening. I did not abandon > an > > edit. I finished an entry, but clicked on the "x" to shutdown before > > saving. Included is a screenshot of a test entry that was completed (see > > last line). Then, I clicked on the "x" to shutdown and the dialogue > popped > > up. > > I seem to remember that "cancel" brought you back into GNUCash and "save" > > atctually save the current state of the file. Now, it doesn't matter > which > > option I choose it, I think it crashes GNUCash. Then on the next startup > > it tells me: > > > > I select "Open Anyway" and the test entry is gone. I hope this make it > > more clear. > > > > > > Thank You, > > *Gyle McCollam* > > > > Gyle McCollam > > > > 609.680.2326 Mobile > > > > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> < > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > email > > > > ________________________________ > > > *From:* David Carlson < > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > *Sent:* Monday, January 17, 2022 8:46 PM > > *To:* Gyle McCollam < > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > *Cc:* > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> < > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > *Subject:* Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash > > > > It is not clear what you think happened. It seems that more than one > > thing did not transpire as you expected, since abandoning an edit, the > > presumed cause of the shutdown without saving warning, and the attempt to > > open a file already in use are different events. > > Then how did you ascertain that, in fact, GnuCash did not save. What, > > exactly did it not save? Did you allow sufficient time for GnuCash to > > actually complete the entire shutdown? Sometimes it takes a really long > > time to shut down. For example, when Linux decides to put some of > > GnuCash's virtual RAM onto hard drive swap space, it may take over a > minute > > for the OS to recover and close the open file. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 6:04 PM Gyle McCollam < > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > I usually don't forget to save first so I don't know how long this has > > been happening. Today I didn't save, so when the dialogue box came up, I > > selected "cancel". GNUCash shutdown without saving and when I tried to > > open it thought there was another instance running, but I said open > > anyway. I tested this again with the same result. Then I tried it again, > > this time telling the system to save. It shut down again, but it did not > > save! I got the same message about the file already in use. > > > > Has anyone else encounter this error? I am using Win11 and GNUCash 4.9. > > > > > > Thank You, > > Gyle McCollam > > > > Gyle McCollam > > > > 609.680.2326 Mobile > > > > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto: > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > email > > > > ________________________________ > > > gnucash-user mailing list > > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > ----- > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > > > > > -- > > David Carlson > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 19:33:51 +0000 > From: Gyle McCollam <[email protected]> > To: Gerald <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [GNC] OneDrive and GnuCash > Message-ID: > < > blapr06mb680215f1a36a4b6718d52b31ca...@blapr06mb6802.namprd06.prod.outlook.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Gerald, I forget how it was done, but I set up OneDrive so that anything > saved to my documents folder is saved to OneDrive. In fact, I think they > are one and the same, but I don't remember the setting. It was so long > ago. I have had no issues with it or using it for GNUCash this way. > > > Thank You, > Gyle McCollam > > Gyle McCollam > > 609.680.2326 Mobile > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> email > > ________________________________ > From: gnucash-user <[email protected]> on > behalf of Gerald <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 2:06 PM > Cc: Gnucash Users <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [GNC] OneDrive and GnuCash > > I use gnucash in Windows 10 in my OneDrive folder. Occasionally (less that > once a month) I'll get a file locked message when starting GC but I just > delete the lock file in the folder and it's all fine. > > Aside from that I have no other file or save issues. > > I also backup the GC folder in OneDrive to Google Drive, because I'm > paranoid! > > > > > > > On Tue, 18 Jan 2022, 19:01 Jesse MacDougall, <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Are you running gnu cash locally and the data from onedrive? > > I have not used one drive personally but I did use Quickbooks to Dropbox > in > > real time and that was total fail. > > > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:52 AM David Carlson < > > [email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > Are there any GnuCash users that store their data files in One Drive? > > > > > > Are there any issues slow response or keeping a few weeks of backup and > > log > > > files? > > > _______________________________________________ > > > gnucash-user mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > > ----- > > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > > > > > > -- > > * Please consider adding [email protected] to your address book. > > This > > will be my new address. This gmail address is being retired. > > _______________________________________________ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > [email protected] > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > ----- > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > _______________________________________________ > gnucash-user mailing list > [email protected] > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > ----- > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 14:51:33 -0500 > From: "Kalpesh Patel" <[email protected]> > To: "'David Carlson'" <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> > Cc: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash (David Carlson) > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I do use Google drive to keep backup copy but I am mindful that I "sync" > the GNC directory from static location from my C: drive to Google Drive as > part of my startup process (mirror via a BAT script in Startup folder using > RoboCopy - Win 10 still has startup folder to throw things in there ?) when > I fire up the computer. This way I always know either I am missing the full > set of manually entered data from the last session or it has everything. > You have to be mindful that Google Drive, OneDrive and many other online > drives are eventual consistent as opposed to synchronous replication type > so you have to account for that gap as it can lead to bad results. I also > encrypt my sensitive data that gets stored in Google Drive using CryptSync > which can do bi-directional (it discerns which file is latest and replicate > accordingly for each file protected under a folder). Since most, if not > all, of my transactions are downloaded in OFX format, it is not too > difficult to bring up to current sta > te if it goes out of state. > > > > >From what I know is that Google Drive, OneDrive and other online drives > will write lock protect the file for the duration of transmission to and > from their servers - this is just normal operation of how async replication > works as those drive apps wants to make sure that copy is exact bit for > bit. Once transmission is completed and you save the file, you are actually > overwriting the previous file that was there (as opposed to modifying > portion of it) and then it will go in this "lock" mode again while it is > transmitting hence it is not a good ideas, IMHO, as this cycle will repeat > every time there is change, including one bit matadata change like time > stamp updates. If you X'ed out from the program while GNC lock file was > locked by the Google drive or OneDrive for synching in this manner, then it > never was really removed and when you go into GNC you will see that message > show up as chances are that online drive program may have replicated that > tiny file back by the time you launched > GNC. > > > > On the linux systems, the file cache is the culprit in the behavior if > something like that happens. Normally linux systems is very aggressive in > caching files where it will use almost all of the free physical memory > available and if the file is small enough it most likely is working from > the memory copy even though it was pulled from ufs/xfs file system and you > wrote it (via save) multiple times - it never potentially made it to the > hard drive platters but Google Drive or OneDrive will synch it up to their > servers and then when you fire it up again, it will get synced down to your > local system and will display that window as well. > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 11:19:32 -0600 > > From: David Carlson < <mailto:[email protected]> > [email protected]> > > To: Gyle McCollam < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> > > Cc: " <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]" < > <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash > > Message-ID: > > < <mailto:CADYgSb= > [email protected]> CADYgSb= > [email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Good. I would still like to hear from others about their experience with > using GnuCash and OneDrive together. > > > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 11:15 AM Gyle McCollam < <mailto: > [email protected]> [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > David, thanks for the prompt response. I have used it this way for > > > years and it used to work. Fortunately, I don't usually forget to save > first. > > > When I do save, I have no issues. > > > > > > Thank You, > > > *Gyle McCollam* > > > > > > Gyle McCollam > > > > > > 609.680.2326 Mobile > > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] < <mailto: > [email protected]> [email protected]> email > > > ------------------------------ > > > *From:* David Carlson < <mailto:[email protected]> > [email protected]> > > > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 12:01 PM > > > *To:* Gyle McCollam < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> > > > *Cc:* <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] < > <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> > > > *Subject:* Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash > > > > > > That is an issue with the way you have your file system organized, but > > > it is not necessarily bad or wrong, just an artifact, I think. I do > > > not use OneDrive or equivalent yet myself because I have not decided > > > how to manage that very issue of the lag while background updates are > > > happening to my data file storage system. > > > > > > You are getting that lock warning because your OneDrive has not caught > > > up with you yet. If you open anyway, you are burdening the OneDrive > > > with more work to keep the data intact, and I do not know if it can > > > handle that, thus I do not try it. Perhaps other users of that type > > > of arrangement can give us their experience.That is probably also the > > > cause of the Save Changes warning. That may actually lose your recent > > > work just as warned. Again, perhaps others have experience with > OneDrive. > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:38 AM Gyle McCollam < <mailto: > [email protected]> [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > David, Hopefully I can clarify what is happening. I did not abandon > > > an edit. I finished an entry, but clicked on the "x" to shutdown > > > before saving. Included is a screenshot of a test entry that was > > > completed (see last line). Then, I clicked on the "x" to shutdown and > > > the dialogue popped up. > > > I seem to remember that "cancel" brought you back into GNUCash and "save" > > > atctually save the current state of the file. Now, it doesn't matter > > > which option I choose it, I think it crashes GNUCash. Then on the > > > next startup it tells me: > > > > > > I select "Open Anyway" and the test entry is gone. I hope this make > > > it more clear. > > > > > > > > > Thank You, > > > *Gyle McCollam* > > > > > > Gyle McCollam > > > > > > 609.680.2326 Mobile > > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] < <mailto: > [email protected]> [email protected]> email > > > ------------------------------ > > > *From:* David Carlson < <mailto:[email protected]> > [email protected]> > > > *Sent:* Monday, January 17, 2022 8:46 PM > > > *To:* Gyle McCollam < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> > > > *Cc:* <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] < > <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> > > > *Subject:* Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash > > > > > > It is not clear what you think happened. It seems that more than one > > > thing did not transpire as you expected, since abandoning an edit, the > > > presumed cause of the shutdown without saving warning, and the attempt > > > to open a file already in use are different events. > > > Then how did you ascertain that, in fact, GnuCash did not save. What, > > > exactly did it not save? Did you allow sufficient time for GnuCash to > > > actually complete the entire shutdown? Sometimes it takes a really > > > long time to shut down. For example, when Linux decides to put some > > > of GnuCash's virtual RAM onto hard drive swap space, it may take over > > > a minute for the OS to recover and close the open file. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 6:04 PM Gyle McCollam < <mailto: > [email protected]> [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I usually don't forget to save first so I don't know how long this has > > > been happening. Today I didn't save, so when the dialogue box came > > > up, I selected "cancel". GNUCash shutdown without saving and when I > > > tried to open it thought there was another instance running, but I > > > said open anyway. I tested this again with the same result. Then I > > > tried it again, this time telling the system to save. It shut down > > > again, but it did not save! I got the same message about the file > already in use. > > > > > > Has anyone else encounter this error? I am using Win11 and GNUCash 4.9. > > > > > > > > > Thank You, > > > Gyle McCollam > > > > > > Gyle McCollam > > > > > > 609.680.2326 Mobile > > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]%3cmailto:[email protected]> > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> email > > > _______________________________________________ > > > gnucash-user mailing list > > > <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] > > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > > <https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user> > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > > <https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists> > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > > ----- > > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > David Carlson > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > David Carlson > > > > > > > > > -- > > David Carlson > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 15:03:46 -0500 > From: Steve Conley <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [GNC] Bug 798423 - IMPORT QIF crashes on a Quicken > transaction Reminder (NOT a scheduled reminder) > Message-ID: > <CAK4AWGOuFuGW+NXfC_9AfirYjV1vjaE+mKkUaedtzxHr06qJ= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I submitted this bug, which was my only "stopper" so far. > > Taking import a bit at a time, but it seems to be working well. > > I discovered a couple of minor issues with my entries in 26 years pf > quicken and am correcting this and restarting. > > Just wanted to thank everyone again, and if I did anything wrong with the > bug submission, please let me know. > > I did search Google and the bug list and did not find this bug. > > Steve Conley > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 14:19:12 -0600 > From: Les <[email protected]> > To: David H <[email protected]> > Cc: GnuCash Users <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [GNC] Gnucash via Flatpak-Issues-Solutions > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Hi David: thanks for the reply.? GC via Flatpac is the only issue I > have.? Since some of the problems occurred during upgrades. > > As far as upgrading Linux MInt: I did upgrade to a 20:1 awhile back, but > it broke some of my other apps.? So I went back to 19.3. > > As an experiment, I have another laptop with LM 19.3.? I installed the > latest GC via Flatpac and DID NOT have any of the issues that I have > experienced on this machine.? Weird to say the least. > > Les > > On 1/17/22 7:41 PM, David H wrote: > > Hi Les, > > > > No idea but I wouldn?t think so but it won?t hurt to try. I?ve been > > using the flat pack version on Ubuntu for ages now and also recently > > on Mint 20.3 without seeing any of the problems you seem to be having. > > Do you have any of these issues in other programs/apps ? Have you > > considered upgrading Linux Mint to see if that fixes the problem ? > > > > Cheers David H. > > > > On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 at 6:05 am, Les <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > I have been using GC for many years and a few years back I started > > using > > Flatpak for installations and updates.? I am on Linux Mint 19.3 > > and GC 4.9. > > > > For the last year or so, I have had some annoying issues: unable to > > correct entries, unable to backspace within an account, and the > > latest, > > I cannot open an account by double-clicking.? Instead I have to click > > open account. > > > > My question is: if I completely uninstall GC via Flatpak and then > > re-install via Flatpak, will I accomplish anything? (The hope of > > course, > > is to eliminate the annoying issues.) > > > > Regards and thanks in advance, > > > > Les > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > <https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user> > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists > > <https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists> for more information. > > ----- > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 14:50:03 -0600 > From: Les <[email protected]> > To: David H <[email protected]> > Cc: GnuCash Users <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [GNC] Gnucash via Flatpak-Issues-Solutions > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > I uninstalled GC via flatpak and then reinstalled it.? No difference. > > Oh well. > > Les > > On 1/17/22 7:41 PM, David H wrote: > > Hi Les, > > > > No idea but I wouldn?t think so but it won?t hurt to try. I?ve been > > using the flat pack version on Ubuntu for ages now and also recently > > on Mint 20.3 without seeing any of the problems you seem to be having. > > Do you have any of these issues in other programs/apps ? Have you > > considered upgrading Linux Mint to see if that fixes the problem ? > > > > Cheers David H. > > > > On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 at 6:05 am, Les <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > I have been using GC for many years and a few years back I started > > using > > Flatpak for installations and updates.? I am on Linux Mint 19.3 > > and GC 4.9. > > > > For the last year or so, I have had some annoying issues: unable to > > correct entries, unable to backspace within an account, and the > > latest, > > I cannot open an account by double-clicking.? Instead I have to click > > open account. > > > > My question is: if I completely uninstall GC via Flatpak and then > > re-install via Flatpak, will I accomplish anything? (The hope of > > course, > > is to eliminate the annoying issues.) > > > > Regards and thanks in advance, > > > > Les > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > <https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user> > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists > > <https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists> for more information. > > ----- > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 07:00:59 +1000 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [GNC] Using logs for recovery > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Dan > > GnuCash will create a log file and a backup file copy each time it exits > and > depending on you preference settings will usually keep a fixed number of > them in > the same directory as the mainfile. It is good practice to keep your > mainfile in > its own directory for this reason. The trick is to pick the logfile with a > date- > timestamp just before the session in which you crashed. There will also be > a > similar number of timestamped backup files. > > If your main file (the one with no timestamp) won't open after a crash, > the best > procedure is to rename the current mainfile by adding a ".old" or similar > extension appended then copy the backup file with the most recent > timestamp to > the main file <filename>.gnucash. Run GnuCash opening the renamed backup > file, > import any log files in sequence with a timestamp more recent than the > backup > file you renamed as the main file. That should restore your file to the > point > just before the crash. If that succeeds then you can delete the copy of > the main > file you renamed to ".old" > > > If this still causes a crash repeat the sequence but edit the most recent > log > file in a text editor before importing it and remove the last transaction > which > likely caused the crash. You will then have to reenter that transaction > when > GnuCash is up and running. > > Note In the above only a copy of the most recent backup is renamed to the > mainfile and not the backup itself. This maintains the integrity of the > file > backups should anything go wrong in the subsequent import which allows you > to > repeat the procedure until you manage to correct the problem. > > David Cousens > > On Tue, 2022-01-18 at 09:10 -0800, Dan wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > Several times I have tried to use logs to recover after a crash and never > > seem to be able to make them work. (Please note that I am "intermediate > > level" with GNUcash, and have very limited programming experience.) > > After navigating to: File ? Import ? Replay GnuCash .log file, I am > faced > > with many .log files following the most recently saved .gnucash file. > > None of the .log files I replayed seem to do anything. > > My next step is to set up a test company and wreak havoc on the files > > intentionally, and also recover correctly. Below are some questions I > hope > > will save me some time. > > Thank you for your consideration. This site is very helpful. > > > > > > My questions are: > > > > Am I missing a crucial step here? > > > > Will I need to replay several .log files? (To clarify, are the .log files > > each for a specific time period, or does the most recent .log file > contain > > all activity since the last saved .gnucash file?) > > > > Which .log file(s) should I use? > > > > Which .log file(s) will "wreak havoc" on my accounts? > > > > Thank you again, > > Confused Dan > > _______________________________________________ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > [email protected] > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > ----- > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > > gnucash-user mailing list > [email protected] > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > ----- > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > ------------------------------ > > End of gnucash-user Digest, Vol 226, Issue 56 > ********************************************* > _______________________________________________ gnucash-user mailing list [email protected] To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. ----- Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. 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