Adrien, Your advice of posting the member's expenses to a liability account
(Dr expenses and Cr Liability account) and then posting out of that
liability account via a credit note in the A/R system (Dr Liability account
and Cr members receivable account) is exactly what I am doing and of course
it works, but it means double the amount of transactions than if I could
simply Dr the relevant expense account when creating the credit note.
Unfortunately, the option of selecting an expense account at an item level
when creating the credit note is not available, and I cannot think of a good
reason why not, so shall ask for this enhancement. I think must be somewhere
users can make such a request, so shall figure out how to do that.
David

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   3.  Could Not Obtain Lock (Abe Sternberg)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2022 17:17:40 +0100
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account (Adrien
        Monteleone)
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Hi Adrien,
In my version of GnuCash I am not able to select an expense account at an
item level when creating the credit note. Only Income, asset or liability
accounts. It's the 5th column entitled "income" where I select the account.
Please check and tell me if I have misunderstood.
Best
David Long

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   2. Re:  Credit note posting to an expense account (Adrien Monteleone)
   3.  Morningstar dumping free services, free quotes might be
      under attack? (David G. Pickett)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2022 17:18:06 +0100
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account
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I wish to create a credit note in A/R and post it to an expense account.
The only options I see are to post to an income, liability, or asset
account, and I can well understand why, as in most business processes a
credit note represents a negative income.  The only work around I can find
is to post to an intermediary account, for example a suspense account in
liabilities, and then post out of that account in a second transaction to
the expense account.  Is there any other way?

For background, it's for a member's club where all members are invoiced for
membership and services in A/R, and sometimes members incur expenses on
behalf of the club, which I wish to credit to their account and debit to the
appropriate expense account. A credit note provides a nice document to
provide them with.

Thanks

David Long



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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2022 13:32:18 -0500
From: Adrien Monteleone <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

The credit note should be posted to A/R, but the line item(s) in the note
can be posted to expense accounts.

Except for the reverse posting (credit vs. debit) they are the same as
invoices & bills.

Regards,
Adrien

On 6/25/22 11:18 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> I wish to create a credit note in A/R and post it to an expense account.
> The only options I see are to post to an income, liability, or asset 
> account, and I can well understand why, as in most business processes 
> a credit note represents a negative income.  The only work around I 
> can find is to post to an intermediary account, for example a suspense 
> account in liabilities, and then post out of that account in a second 
> transaction to the expense account.  Is there any other way?
> 
> For background, it's for a member's club where all members are 
> invoiced for membership and services in A/R, and sometimes members 
> incur expenses on behalf of the club, which I wish to credit to their 
> account and debit to the appropriate expense account. A credit note 
> provides a nice document to provide them with.



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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2022 20:43:24 +0000 (UTC)
From: "David G. Pickett" <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: [GNC] Morningstar dumping free services, free quotes might be
        under attack?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

As I looked at my publicly traded portfolio today on Morningstar, they told
me they are dropping the free basic services.? It's a sad trend after so
many years.

I am worried we might lose some of our gnuCash free quote servers.? Of
course, gnuCash perl quotes itself can only be modified by generous parties
to chase new sources that may remain viable.

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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2022 12:52:14 -0500
From: Adrien Monteleone <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account (Adrien
        Monteleone)
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David, sorry, you are correct. I'm not sure what I was thinking.

Create a Liability account for this purpose. The member is spending on the
Club's behalf and thus the Club 'owes' the member. I have one called
'Reimbursable Expenditures'

Make a transaction to record the expense:

Dr. Expense
Cr. Reimbursable Expenditures

Raise a credit note to reduce the Liability and reduce AR. (what the member
owes)

That should result in:

Dr. Reimbursable Expenditures
Cr. AR

A 'customer' report should then reflect the net owed by the member. (or by
the club if the expense was in excess of dues)

Regards,
Adrien

On 6/26/22 11:17 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> Hi Adrien,
> In my version of GnuCash I am not able to select an expense account at 
> an item level when creating the credit note. Only Income, asset or 
> liability accounts. It's the 5th column entitled "income" where I select
the account.
> Please check and tell me if I have misunderstood.
> Best
> David Long



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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2022 14:00:25 -0400
From: Abe Sternberg <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [GNC] Could Not Obtain Lock
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I get this message every time I open GnuCash. It doesn't seem to cause any
damage but is an annoyance.  Does anyone know what causes this and how to
correct it?
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Abe
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2022 14:22:31 -0400
From: Glenn Fowler <[email protected]>
To: Abe Sternberg <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [GNC] Could Not Obtain Lock
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Hi Abe,

Are you on Windows and how are you closing GnuCash? There was a bug that
would cause this that is fixed in v4.11 being released today

On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 2:00 PM Abe Sternberg <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I get this message every time I open GnuCash. It doesn't seem to cause 
> any damage but is an annoyance.  Does anyone know what causes this and 
> how to correct it?
>  [image: image.png]
>
> Abe
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2022 15:22:06 -0400
From: Abe Sternberg <[email protected]>
To: Glenn Fowler <[email protected]>
Cc: GnuCash users group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [GNC] Could Not Obtain Lock
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I am using Windows 11.  I try to close GnuCash properly, though there have
been times when I may not have.  Also, I have had some Windows updates while
GnuCash was left open.  I will look for the update and advise if the error
continues.

Thanks,
Abe

On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 2:30 PM Glenn Fowler <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Abe,
>
> Are you on Windows and how are you closing GnuCash? There was a bug 
> that would cause this that is fixed in v4.11 being released today
>
> On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 2:00 PM Abe Sternberg 
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I get this message every time I open GnuCash. It doesn't seem to 
>> cause any damage but is an annoyance.  Does anyone know what causes 
>> this and how to correct it?
>>  [image: image.png]
>>
>> Abe
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