Regarding my question ("Possible GC bug?"), I just reread your response and
realized that you actually said that in your hands it works correctly; I
had thought you said the opposite.So though it could possibly be a bug just on MacOS (unless you're also on MacOS), I rather suspect that there is something screwy in the settings somewhere. -P. On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 11:04 PM Peter S. Shenkin <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, David, > > I did try using both Increase/Decrease and Debit/Credit labeling in the > register, but the transaction report is unchanged. > > I also saw an option in Preferences for Reversing either Credit Accounts, > or Income & Expense Accounts, or None. I really have no idea what that is > about, but GC seems to have been supplied with Credit Accounts selected, so > I thought I'd try with None. It didn't change the transaction report, so I > set it back to Credit Accounts. I'll RTFM on that sometime, but it doesn't > appear to have anything to do with this... > > Possible GC bug? > > -P. > > On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 10:52 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Peter >> I do agree the Debit and Credit column headers appear to be reversed on >> the >> Transaction Report in your original post . I have just run a Transaction >> report >> (GC 4.11) on one of my bank accounts and it reports my income (payments >> into >> the account) correctly as debits and expenses (payments from the >> account) as >> credits. I thought it could possibly be related to the use of the >> non-accounting >> labels which I tend to use rather than the informal headers. I have just >> changed >> to the informal headers in my preferences and rerun the transaction >> report and >> the column headers are still correct so that does not appear to be the >> problem. >> Did that transaction come out with debits and credits correctly in the >> account >> register when you selected the formal accounting labels preference? >> David Cousens >> >> On Mon, 2022-08-01 at 19:35 -0400, Peter S. Shenkin wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I made up the name "transaction entry" because I didn't know what to >> call >> > it. 😊 I didn't know there was such a thing as a transaction entry >> window. >> > >> > If I had the Donations account open, I would have had the same kind of >> > problem. >> > >> > Per Gyle's suggestion it looks like I can switch to the good old Credit >> / >> > Debit labels. >> > >> > Also, the second part of my question involved the Transaction report. >> There >> > the headings at the top seem backwards. They are labeled Credit and >> Debit, but >> > where I entered a Debit, it appears in the Credit column and vice >> versa. Any >> > comment on this? >> > >> > -P. >> > On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 6:23 PM <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > Peter >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > The terms Increase and Decrease in the header only apply to the >> account >> > > whose >> > > >> > > register you have open not to the accounts which are the target of the >> > > >> > > individual split(entry) of the transaction and not to the account >> which is >> > > >> > > designated in the second split. It would appear that you have the >> register >> > > for >> > > >> > > your checking account open and a debit entry is an Increase in that. >> If >> > > there >> > > >> > > was a credit split/entry to your checking account it would appear in >> the >> > > >> > > decrease column. The second line of the transaction is the >> corresponding >> > > credit >> > > >> > > entry to the revenue account. This is why we accountants find the >> headers >> > > >> > > Increase/Decrease confusing. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > You are not making entries in a "transaction entry" window in GnuCash >> but >> > > you >> > > >> > > are performing the transaction entry directly into the register for >> that >> > > account >> > > >> > > itself. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > David Cousens >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Mon, 2022-08-01 at 17:13 -0400, Peter S. Shenkin wrote: >> > > >> > > > Hi, I'm using Gnucash 4.11 on MacOS 11.6.8. >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > There are two images attached, labeled Transaction entry and >> Transaction >> > > >> > > > report. They are two different views of the same transaction, to a >> non >> > > >> > > > profit that I am doing the books for. >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > The transaction involves a deposit to our checking account from >> Wepay. >> > > It's >> > > >> > > > a donation, which we account for under Revenue:Donations, which >> increases >> > > >> > > > with a Credit, and the bank account will increase with a Debit, so >> this >> > > >> > > > should be properly balanced. >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > However, from the Transaction-entry screen shot, where the column >> labels >> > > >> > > > are Increase and Decrease, I have to enter the Donation as a >> Decrease in >> > > >> > > > order to make the Donation record increase. This is bizarre, is it >> not? >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > You can see in the same image that the checking balance goes up. so >> it >> > > >> > > > seems to be properly recorded as a debit; in addition, though not >> shown, >> > > >> > > > the sum of Donations does goes up, which seems contrary to having >> to enter >> > > >> > > > it as a Decrease. >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > Now look at the second screenshot, the Transaction-report view for >> this >> > > >> > > > transaction. What is especially strange here is that the labels of >> the >> > > >> > > > Debit and Credit columns are exactly reversed. It says that the >> Checking >> > > >> > > > side of the transaction is a Credit and the Donation side is a >> Debit, >> > > which >> > > >> > > > is exactly backwards. >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > Any insight, including any aspect due to my own foolishness and/or >> > > >> > > > inexperience, would be appreciated. >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > -P. >> > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > >> > > > gnucash-user mailing list >> > > >> > > > [email protected] >> > > >> > > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> > > >> > > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> > > >> > > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> > > >> > > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> > > >> > > > ----- >> > > >> > > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> > > >> > > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> [email protected] >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> ----- >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > _______________________________________________ gnucash-user mailing list [email protected] To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. ----- Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. 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