Brad, I just want to note that your acquaintance has a remarkably parochial attitude about software. GnuCash has been available and actively developed for something like 25 years.
It seems to me that in this era of "big data," those commercial companies are more interested in the customer as a source of data mining income than as a partner using their software. *And* outages with major commercial platforms (Twitter, Facebook?) underscore that it is not just open source projects that fail sometimes. David T. On Mar 18, 2023, 4:21 PM, at 4:21 PM, Robert Heller <hel...@deepsoft.com> wrote: >At Sat, 18 Mar 2023 06:04:52 -0700 Brad Morrison ><bradmorri...@sonic.net> wrote: > >> >> Thanks for point these situations out Ken! The reason I joined the >> GnuCash-User mailing lists was because I sent a link to an >acquaintance >> that does bookkeeping professionally and he texted back that the >website >> was down, he then did a Google search and tried the GnuCash result on > >> his own and that link didn't work either, and he then goes on to tell >me >> that this is why he doesn't trust open source projects with his >business >> or his clients' business. It was pretty embarrassing for me and I >have >> hesitated to refer any possibly interested professionals that I meet >to >> GnuCash since. >> >> I can confirm the certificate error for website #1. It looks like >> gnucash.org uses Let's Encrypt (https://letsencrypt.org/) as the >> certificate authority and the certificate was valid from December 12, > >> 2022 until March 11, 2023. My understanding was that Let's Encrypt >was >> free, so that might mean that it just has to be >renewed/reauthorized...? > >Let's Encrypt uses a program "certbot" which is supposed to >automagically >renew the certificate. It does try to verify the domain it is for by >visiting >the website. Since there was a webserver config problem (the redirect >config >was broken), it is likely that the automagical renewal failed... > >> >> I can confirm that website #2 still lists the "Apache2 Ubuntu Default > >> Page" error for the non-https/secure gnucash website. I believe that >> John mentioned that Linas upgraded his server in January and that >broke >> this feature and it has not been fixed since. >> > >Yes, this webserver config error needs to be fixed. Once it is fixed, >the >Let's Encrypt certbot program will be able to renew the certificate, >which >will fix the https://www.gnucash.org error. > >> I also see Gnucash website #3 as working well. I can see that that >> website also uses Let's Encrypt as the certificate authority and that > >> certificate is valid from March 5, 2023 until June 3, 2023. >> >> I also noticed that website #1 & #2 has 2 "Subject Alt Names" >> (gnucash.org & www.gnucash.org) on that certificate, while website #3 > >> has just 1 (code.gnucash.org). > >Yes, this is a "normal" thing. Almost all www.xxx.yyy hostnames refer >to the >same logical host as xxx.yyy -- eg while commonly normal websites start >with >www, most also work without the 'www.'. > >> >> After briefly reading a few of the mailing list messages on US >> banks/credit unions that are not allowing their transaction to be >> downloaded/available in an open format, I have also wanted to start >> emailing various financial institutions about whether they intend to >> make such a format available. I would still need to further review >the >> formatting situation described in the email chains before I start >asking >> around and then opening an account at such a financial institution, >but >> if the main GnuCash website still doesn't work, it is hard to write >such >> emails at all. >> >> Brad >> >> >> On 3/17/23 11:00, Ken Pyzik wrote: >> > So checking websites statuses today: >> > >> > https://www.gnucash.org - privacy/certificate error >> > http://www.gnucash.org - Default appache2 page >> > https://code.gnucash.org/website - working perfectly. >> > >> > As noted - this has been an issue since 11 February. The https:// >was working at one point a couple of weeks ago -- but now it is not. >> > >> > FYI -- Ken >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: >gnucash-user<gnucash-user-bounces+pyz01=outlook....@gnucash.org> On >Behalf Of John Ralls >> > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 3:40 PM >> > To:gnucash-annou...@lists.gnucash.org >> > Cc: gnucash-devel<gnucash-de...@gnucash.org>; Gnucash >Users<gnucash-user@gnucash.org> >> > Subject: [GNC] Temporary Website URL >> > >> > As most everyone already knowswww.gnucash.org has been offline >since 11 February because Linas Vepstas lost internet access and his >ISP, Grande Networks in Austin, TX, has not fixed it. >> > >> > To provide replacement service until Linas gets back online we've >set up an alternate site,https://code.gnucash.org/website/. >> > >> > Regards, >> > John Ralls >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > gnucash-user mailing list >> > gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> > ----- >> > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > _______________________________________________ >> > gnucash-user mailing list >> > gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> > ----- >> > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> ----- >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> >> > >> > >-- >Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 GV: 978-633-5364 >Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services >http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services >hel...@deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services > >_______________________________________________ >gnucash-user mailing list >gnucash-user@gnucash.org >To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >----- >Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. _______________________________________________ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user ----- Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. 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