Noted, but is that really the case in 5.4 where a process was left running
(in Windows), causing problems for GnuCash users? That didn't seem to be
related to externals.

And the bug in 5.5 where Scheduled transactions don't work with variables,
or crash the system -- that seems to be tied to a too-quick-fix in the
Scheduled transactions.

I am well familiar with OS changes causing problems, and library changes
causing problems, and my own bug fixes causing a problem to show up
somewhere else, and I have enormous respect for those who work on GnuCash.

It just seems to me that the recent releases have been much more
"bug-ridden" than the 4.x releases.


On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 4:00 PM David Cousens <davidcousen...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Richard,
>
> Given the relatively small pool of active developers it is inevitable that
> there
> will be occasions where major changes in external libraries, operating
> systems
> as well as banking systems and technology and accounting practice can
> result in
> a cascade of bugs in the program and the developers are going to face a
> period
> of catchup to track them all down. The lack of a large pool of beta testers
> means that bugs, particularly the more subtle ones, are not necessarily
> found
> quickly. These days bugs are very rarely associated with the core engine
> of the
> program and are mainly in the gui/presentation/reports  parts of the
> program so
> the core accounting functionality is rarely affected. Keeping and
> expanding an
> active pool of developers is an eternal problem in any sort of open source
> project.  All we can do is contribute what and where we can and be
> grateful for
> the hard work of those who made and make GnuCash possible. I had hoped to
> be
> more involved after retiring but life had other plans and has imposed other
> priorities.
>
> David Cousens
>
>
> On Wed, 2023-12-27 at 22:33 -0600, R Losey wrote:
> > Let me start off by trying to avoid hateful responses...
> >
> > I worked in the software industry, and the programs I supported have had
> > their share of issues. I remember (with hung head) when we went through a
> > patch in which we would claim to have fixed a problem, only to have it
> > recur, and then fixed that and then had another problem occur. It was a
> > really bad time, and we took a lot of heat for it.
> >
> > I also know that GnuCash is free, thanks to the intense dedication of a
> > relatively small number of people... for whom and to whom, I am very
> > grateful.
> >
> > However.
> >
> > I started using GnuCash about 8 years ago, and I generally upgraded each
> > quarter as the new versions came out. My own experience in software led
> me
> > to delay doing the update for 7-10 days -- just in case there was a bug
> > that necessitated a re-release (and it happened just enough to make me
> glad
> > I waited from time to time).
> >
> > I am still running 5.3 because (as has been documented here), the 5.4
> > windows release had a bug that left a process running.  "No problem", I
> > thought -- I'll just skip 5.4 and install 5.5 when it comes out.
> >
> > Well, 5.5 is out, and it looks like the Scheduled Transactions no longer
> > function properly, especially in regard to variable placeholders. This
> is a
> > feature I used and cannot use GnuCash if this is broken. This makes 5.5
> > also unusable for me. This is the first time I can remember when I could
> > not download a new release - let alone two of them.
> >
> > I don't know what the problem is or what the best solution is -- perhaps
> > everyone on this list could contribute a few dollars to give
> > the hardworking developers a chance to "re-charge", as it were? Perhaps
> > a quarter needs to be spent only fixing bugs and ignoring adding new
> > features? Perhaps the developers just need to take a break for a quarter?
> >
> > I don't mean this at all in a harsh or critical way; I am just concerned
> > that a program I really like seems to be slipping somehow.
> >
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