Hi John,
I tried the gdb thing.
It didn't go well. I spit up an error at me and I was lost
===================
[New LWP 20250]
[New LWP 20248]
warning: Unable to find dynamic linker breakpoint function.
GDB will be unable to debug shared library initializers
and track explicitly loaded dynamic code.
Downloading 54.20 K separate debug info for system-supplied DSO at
0x7fd76b811000
warning: Target and debugger are in different PID namespaces; thread lists
and other data are likely unreliable.  Connect to gdbserver inside the
container.
0x00007fd769d107e0 in ?? ()
============================
didn't know what to do from there, the gnucash program was frozen until I
quit the gdb program

the terminal warnings I got before where
==========================
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3db940c70' has
no handler with id '40738'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3db940c70' has
no handler with id '40763'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3db940c70' has
no handler with id '40788'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3db940c70' has
no handler with id '40813'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3db940c70' has
no handler with id '40838'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3db940c70' has
no handler with id '40863'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3db940c70' has
no handler with id '40888'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3db940c70' has
no handler with id '40913'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3db940c70' has
no handler with id '40938'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3db940c70' has
no handler with id '40963'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3db940c70' has
no handler with id '40988'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3db940c70' has
no handler with id '41013'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3db940c70' has
no handler with id '41038'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3db940c70' has
no handler with id '41063'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3db940c70' has
no handler with id '41088'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3db940c70' has
no handler with id '41113'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3db940c70' has
no handler with id '41138'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3db940c70' has
no handler with id '41163'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3db940c70' has
no handler with id '41188'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3db940c70' has
no handler with id '41213'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3db940c70' has
no handler with id '41238'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3db940c70' has
no handler with id '41283'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3db940c70' has
no handler with id '41308'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3db940c70' has
no handler with id '41333'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3db940c70' has
no handler with id '41356'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3db940c70' has
no handler with id '41379'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3db940c70' has
no handler with id '41401'
<sys>:0: Warning: g_object_run_dispose: assertion 'G_IS_OBJECT (object)'
failed
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3dba39f70' has
no handler with id '72756'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3dba39f70' has
no handler with id '72781'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3dba39f70' has
no handler with id '72806'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3dba39f70' has
no handler with id '72831'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3dba39f70' has
no handler with id '72856'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3dba39f70' has
no handler with id '72881'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3dba39f70' has
no handler with id '72906'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3dba39f70' has
no handler with id '72931'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3dba39f70' has
no handler with id '72956'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3dba39f70' has
no handler with id '72981'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3dba39f70' has
no handler with id '73006'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3dba39f70' has
no handler with id '73031'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3dba39f70' has
no handler with id '73056'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3dba39f70' has
no handler with id '73081'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3dba39f70' has
no handler with id '73106'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3dba39f70' has
no handler with id '73131'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3dba39f70' has
no handler with id '73156'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3dba39f70' has
no handler with id '73181'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3dba39f70' has
no handler with id '73206'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3dba39f70' has
no handler with id '73231'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3dba39f70' has
no handler with id '73256'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3dba39f70' has
no handler with id '73301'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3dba39f70' has
no handler with id '73326'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3dba39f70' has
no handler with id '73351'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3dba39f70' has
no handler with id '73374'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3dba39f70' has
no handler with id '73397'
<sys>:0: Warning: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x55c3dba39f70' has
no handler with id '73419'
===============================
but gnucash seemed to still be running OK

the starce is 32MB and gnucash hadn't crashed I'm not sure what I could
past into an email that would help?

Thank You,
Pat Jr.

On Sun, Oct 12, 2025 at 8:34 AM John Ralls <[email protected]> wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> Please remember to copy the list on all replies.  The easy way is to use
> “reply all” or if your mail client supports it, “reply list”.
>
> Sorry, the stack trace instructions are at
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Stack_Trace. I left off the “wiki”
> directory in my previous reply.
>
> I can’t access your files on Google Drive because you seem not to have
> marked them as accessible to anyone with the link. They’re both probably
> short enough that you can just paste them into a reply.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
>
> On Oct 12, 2025, at 07:32, Patrick McLaughlin Jr <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Hi John,
> the link seems to be broken.
> I looked up strace and tried to figure out how to do the stack trace thing.
> I reinstalled 5.13 from the repo and tested a few dummy transactions.
> 5.13 crashed the first three times when I was trying to use  strace -p XXXX
> but then I tried useing  strace -p XXXX 2>&1 gnucash_starce.txt
> and it didn't crash again.So I exited that and restarted 5.13 and now it
> doesn't crash.
> I had called gncash from a terminal and there were some warnings so I
> attached those.
>
> All this stuff is a bit of "back box" to me so sorry if it wasn't very
> helpful.
>  gnucash_strace.txt
> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RY5Jj2XqbYC28YzfRMAZ3-2YbFBs5RLo/view?usp=drive_web>
>  gnucash_terminal_output.txt
> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xiOawZkgzOvZRzYfGlDckEICuFjHJTqe/view?usp=drive_web>
>
> Thank You,
> Pat Jr.
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 9:58 AM John Ralls <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Can you get a stack trace (https://wiki.gnucash.org/Stack_Trace) and see
>> if it’s the same as what James Thorpe just posted in the “Regular Crashes
>> on Linus Mint when assigning payment” thread?
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>>
>>
>> On Oct 10, 2025, at 16:59, Patrick McLaughlin Jr <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I was catching up on my paperwork and found that GNUCash keep crashing on
>> me.
>> I enter invoices and the log then payment, When I tried to enter the
>> payment GNUCash would crash, just disappear from the screen. So I removed
>> 5.13 and installed 5.12 and it's working fine again.
>>
>> fedora 41 repo install
>> x86
>>
>> I also tried the flatpak version and it crashed too.
>>
>> Thank You,
>> Pat Jr.
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