Dear all, thanks for your answers, Note: I have always recent e-mails in Junk Emails/Spams folder.
Sorry, I have forgotten in more SPF/DKIM/DMARC standards, there are Authenticated Received Chain (ARC) and BIMI too. I have added all standard links after. The goal is to have good settings and not good automatic e-mails in Junk Emails/Spams folder, all e-mail servers must to respect it. If other e-mail servers administrators read me, please do same. In this gnucash.org case, where I can send full mail logs to fix this problem (in all lists)? - https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo Who manage the gnucash e-mail server? ------------------- For informations: The standards are here: RFC 7208: Sender Policy Framework (SPF) for Authorizing Use of Domains in Email, Version 1 - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7208 RFC 6376: DomainKeys Identified Mail (DKIM) Signatures - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6376 RFC 7489: Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting, and Conformance (DMARC) - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7489 RFC 8617: The Authenticated Received Chain (ARC) Protocol - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8617 I-Draft (not yet a RFC but already implemented in several projects/softwares/companies): Brand Indicators for Message Identification (BIMI) - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brand-indicators-for-message-identification/ - https://bimigroup.org/ ---------- To test the e-mail server: SPF/DKIM/DMARC/BIMI (no test for ARC): - https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx Google search about mailman/postfix and SPF/DKIM/DMARC/ARC/BIMI: - https://www.google.com/search?q=mailman+SPF+DKIM+DMARC+ARC - https://www.google.com/search?q=postfix+SPF+DKIM+DMARC+ARC - https://www.google.com/search?q=postfix+BIMI Thanks a lot in advance. Regards, Neustradamus ________________________________________ From: gnucash-user <[email protected]> on behalf of Harold Hallikainen via gnucash-user <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2025 06:42 To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [GNC] Received e-mails in Spams (bad e-mail server configuration / ML configuration) I do just SPF and DMARC, both of which are on the dns server. That seems to work. Dkim looks more complicated sibce it created by the mail server for each message. Spf and dmarc wirk for me. Good luck Harold Https://w6iwi.org On Fri, November 7, 2025 9:49 pm, [email protected] wrote: > Thank you for this. A little searching shows that DMARC needs both SPF > and DKIM, and the header below shows that the DKIM signature did not > verify. I'm not sure how difficult correcting this problem would be for > the mailing list sysops. > > �David T. ​ > > On Nov 8, 2025, 6:00 AM, at 6:00 AM, Harold Hallikainen via > gnucash-user <[email protected]> wrote: >> A lot of email servers want SPF and DMARC. The headers are showing SPF >> passed, but DMARC failed. Mxtoolbox.com is a great way to see why emails >> fsil. >> >> Harold >> >> >> >> On Fri, November 7, 2025 5:16 pm, David Carlson wrote: >> >>> I think the problem is not with the GnuCash maillist, but with your >>> >> email >>> service. When an email that you consider to not be spam ends up in >> your >>> spam folder, there should be a way to tell your provider that you do >> not >>> consider it to be spam. >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 6, 2025 at 6:46 PM * Neustradamus * >>> <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Dear GnuCash team, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Can you solve the problem of e-mails always detected in "Junk >>>> Emails"/"Spams" folder? >>>> SPF/DKIM/DMARC >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> For example, a part of logs: >>>> ... >>>> ARC-Seal: i=2; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector10001; d=microsoft.com; >>>> cv=fail; ... ARC-Authentication-Results: i=2; mx.microsoft.com 1; >>>> spf=pass >> (sender ip >> >>>> is XXX.XXX.XXX.XX) smtp.rcpttodomain=hotmail.com >>>> smtp.mailfrom=gnucash.org; dmarc=fail (p=none sp=quarantine >>>> pct=100) action=none header.from=outlook.com; dkim=fail (signature >>>> did not verify) header.d=outlook.com; arc=fail (47) ... >>>> Authentication-Results: spf=pass (sender IP is XXX.XXX.XXX.XX) >>>> smtp.mailfrom=gnucash.org; dkim=fail (signature did not verify) >>>> header.d=outlook.com;dmarc=fail action=none >>>> header.from=outlook.com; Received-SPF: Pass (protection.outlook.com: >>>> domain of gnucash.org designates XXX.XXX.XXX.XX as permitted sender) >>>> receiver=protection.outlook.com; client-ip=XXX.XXX.XXX.XX; >>>> helo=code.gnucash.org; pr=C ... >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Neustradamus >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> gnucash-user mailing list [email protected] To update your >>>> subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >>>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >>>> ----- >>>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >>>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> David Carlson >>> _______________________________________________ >>> gnucash-user mailing list [email protected] To update your >>> subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >>> ----- >>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Not sent from an iPhone. >> _______________________________________________ >> gnucash-user mailing list [email protected] To update your >> subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> ----- >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > -- Not sent from an iPhone. _______________________________________________ gnucash-user mailing list [email protected] To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user ----- Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. 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