Hi,

Gnucash in Opensuse Tumbleweed src-oss is still 5.13 with the inability to pay invoices due to Gnucash crashing. The recommendation I received was (and thank you):

   "I suspect this is a known issue introduced in 5.13. To confirm you
   may revert to 5.12 or update to a more recent version."

I asked where I could get 5.12 for openSUSE Tumbleweed. I have not seen a response (I might have missed it). I checked out Gnucash downloads and there is no downloadable version for openSUSE Tumbleweed. I need to finish off books for 2025-26 and file.

Where can I get an older (5.12) or newer (5.15) version of Gnucash with dependancies for openSUSE Tumbleweed?

Thanks in advance,

Richard

Richard G. Herbert

On 6/17/26 15:34, J. Richard Herbert wrote:

Thank you for the reply and likely cause.

I updated my system two days ago (sudo zypper dup) and still have the problem. The Gnucash version I have, which is the version in the current openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss repository, is 5.13-3.4 (V. 5.13; Build ID 5.13+(2025-09-27); Finance::Quote). Do you have a suggestion for where to get a newer update compatible with the latest update of openSUSE Tumbleweed?

My current OS version of software is:

    openSUSE Tumbleweed: 20260612
    KDE Plasma v: 6.6.5
    KDE Frameworks v: 6.26.0
    Qt v: 6.11.1
    Kernel v: 7.0.12-1-default (64 bit)
    Graphics Platform: X11

For those who asked for details on when this happens -- Any time a payment is attempted for a posted invoice, regardless of how that payment is entered.

Thank you,

Richard

On 6/16/26 12:00, [email protected] wrote:
Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2026 11:31:18 -0700
From: Sherlock<[email protected]>
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [GNC] Fw: Help - Re: Gnucash Crash when Paying invoices
Message-ID:<[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

Hi Richard,

I suspect this is a known issue introduced in 5.13.  To confirm you may
revert to 5.12 or update to a more recent version.

Regards,

Sherlock

On 6/14/26 7:48 PM, Liz wrote:
I am forwarding this to the list, it having gone to the wrong addresses.
[email protected] is the correct address.


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Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2026 13:29:51 -0400
From: "J. Richard Herbert"<[email protected]>
To:[email protected],[email protected]
Subject: Help - Re: Gnucash Crash when Paying invoices


Hi again,

My bookkeeping is light, so I waited for a bit and updated my OpenSuse
Tumbleweed today. then went to gnucash and have the same problem where
trying to pay invoices results in a crash. According to today?s update
I am on 5.13-3.4.

What can I do to move through this problem? Do you already have a
solution?

Please, II do need help as I have years of bookkeeping in Gnucash.

Thanks,

Richard

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On 6/14/26 13:26, J. Richard Herbert wrote:
Hi again,

My bookkeeping is light, so I waited for a bit and updated my
OpenSuse Tumbleweed today. then went to gnucash and have the same
problem where trying to pay invoices results in a crash. According to
today?s update I am on 5.13-3.4.

What can I do to move through this problem? Do you already have a
solution?

Please, II do need help as I have years of bookkeeping in Gnucash.

Thanks,

Richard


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On 3/28/26 21:07, J. Richard Herbert wrote:
Hi,

The CAID_GNU_25-26.gnucash file I am using was created on another of
my computers that has a different username. Can this be the cause of
the build-id traoubles seen in the crash report? If so, how to I fix
the problem.

Thanks for consideration on this.

Richard

On 3/26/26 1:54 AM, J. Richard Herbert wrote:
I have also tried:

   1. To return to an earlier save point to then begin with not
      duplicating the bill. I was able to get this to work once but in
      the multiple attempts to pay other vendor bills, I have failed.
      I do not know if I did something different for the one time that
      payment worked.
   2. To manually put the payment into Acc Payable and then right
      click on it to choose Assign Payment. Again crash

On 3/25/26 17:18, J. Richard Herbert wrote:
I should point at that:

   1. In Preferences -> Accounts under Default Currency, I have
      toggled Choose and Chosen Canadian
   2. I did not have a problem paying a a posted invoice with a
      previously entered Vendor
   3. I entered a new Vendor and the currency is Canadian
   4. I then duplicated an invoice from a similar vendor to save time
      setting the invoice... but changed the vendor name when doing
so. 5. I alter amounts and back dated when I posted
   6. Then I could not pay the invoice due to crashing.

On 3/25/26 17:04, J. Richard Herbert wrote:
Crash when paying posted invoices:

I fell behind in bookkeeping and started catching up today. I
cannot pay posted invoices. When I click to have the payment
accepted Gnucash crashes. I have tried through vendors to process
a payment, from the posted invoice, and from the pop-up that
opens to process a payment when I start up gnucash. I updated the
computer today to see if an update would help (zypper dup), but
have the same problem.

I am working in OpenSuse Tumbleweed with KDE Plasma (see
attached) operating in Btrfs and file storage in ext4. The
Gnucash version is 5.13 (see attached). Although, the Gnucash
version was updated when the computer updated. The last time I
can be certain Gnucash worked was July 2025 (I fell far behind
with bookkeeping). I have also attached the crash report.

When I have to scrub, I bring forward the ~/.local/share/gnucash
directory with its contents when I need to do a reinstall (which
is not the issue here).

Please, help.

Thanks

Richard

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2026 15:44:37 -0400
From: "Kalpesh Patel"<[email protected]>
To:<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [GNC] Other software
Message-ID:<[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="utf-8"

IMHO, an acceptable email might be a "New version of XYZ released. See ABC site for 
details." should be acceptable as a broadcast caveated that it is part of GNUCASH, 
uses first-person by-products of gnucash, or refers to a product that facilitates a niche 
issue related to gnucash.

I definitely would not want this board - named as gnucash-users - should be a 
used for anything other than gnucash discussion.

-----Original Message-----
From: Adrien Monteleone<[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2026 12:39 PM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [GNC] Other software

Tough call.

Wm & Patrick both have valid points for sure.

I too am generally fine with announcements, but ongoing discussion could be a 
problem.

If only open source projects are allowed, I could see that as reasonable, with 
the caveat that topics or discussion outside of how this 3rd party project is 
used *with GnuCash* are out of scope.

They shouldn't leach or hi-jack this list as a substitute for independent 
support and should themselves urge users to partake of their own offered 
channels.

I'm also fine if you bar all such topics/announcements, at least from the 
creators.

If regular users alert someone in a relevant reply to a particular resource, 
that's a different matter. (such as in reply to a feature request, someone 
posts a link to one of these projects that already fits the bill. Any 
discussion thereof is in a limited context and should not
metastasize.)

Regards,
Adrien

On 6/14/26 12:09 AM, Liz wrote:
I have had another request for publication of information regarding
other software which could be used in conjunction with Gnucash.

So far this is on hold.

Following the previous use of this list to advertise other software I
am considering a total ban so there would be no leniency according to
licence eg GPL passes and proprietary is not allowed.

Please feel free to comment.

Liz

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2026 17:37:03 -0400
From: Michael or Penny Novack<[email protected]>
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [GNC] Reimbursement for fraud
Message-ID:<[email protected]>
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I will make no assumptions, not enough information to give you an
answer. And of course this is really an accounting question. You also
need to tell us if books cash basis or accrual basis (business features).

WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL TRANSACTION? The original credit was to the credit
card, but the debit was to account X?? NOW when you are reimbursed the
debit will be to the credit card (if they did it that way) or to cash
(if they did it that way) and the credit will be to account X. NOT
INCOME. Reimbursement of an expense is not income.

This is for cash basis.



Michael D Novack




On 6/14/2026 11:06 PM, David T. via gnucash-user wrote:
I am assuming that this fraud took some time to straighten out, and > there 
were amounts on your books for a stretch of time before it all
  > cleared up. You want your accounts to look like that. > > First, I'd
void the original credit card payment with a note about > the fraud,
since it never went through. > > Next, I'd create a transaction for the
fraudulent amount to a new > expense account Expenses:Fraud. > >
Finally, when the money was recovered and returned, I'd enter a >
transaction from Expenses:Fraud back to your checking account. > >
IANAA, YMMV, IYKYK, IDKS, TKKKHITLLLH* David T. > > * I made that one up
for "To know know know him, is to love love > love him" > > On June 15,
2026 5:47:47 AM GMT+05:30, "Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)" >
<[email protected]> wrote: >> On 2026-06-14 10:20, Robert Putman
wrote: >>> I had a check to a credit card company that was washed and
  >>> cashed by someone else. We reported it as fraud and was >>>
eventually repaid. How do I record this in GnuCash so that it >>>
doesn't appear as income but that will balance in GnuCash? >> >> If I
understand you correctly, you did not actually lose (or gain) >> any
money by this episode of check fraud. >> >> In that case, you don't have
to record anything, since you had no >> income or expense and none of
your assets or liabilities changed >> in value. >> >> If you want to
record _something_ for historical purposes, you can >> enter a
transaction with no transfer account and no amounts. GC is >> quite
happy to accept such transactions and then you'll have a >> record in
your checking account register in case some time in the >> future you
need to know when this happened/ >> >> Stan Brown Tehachapi, CA, USA
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