I suggest you reread my first email where I wrote that we possibly should change the preselected items so that one can get a histogram faster.
ajg Bob <[email protected]> wrote: > >I think you make my point very well!-) So apparently you have to dig >even deeper into the menu system than I realized to actually get a >histogram. The reason I did not look for a tab to select "Histogram" >is that I had already selected "Histogram" at an earlier stage. > >Instead of finding fault with my description of the problem I suggest >you look at some of the other software I mentioned and count how many >clicks and dialog boxes you have to wade through to get a histogram. >It is MUCH easier -- even in software like R that is supposed to be >very unfriendly. > >Forwarded message: >> From [email protected] Tue Apr 14 12:15:23 2015 >> X-Original-To: [email protected] >> X-Csoft-Rule: spam<=5.0 >> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2-csoft39 (2011-06-06) on >> lilly2.csoft.net >> X-Spam-Level: >> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=6.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI >> autolearn=ham version=3.3.2-csoft39 >> X-Original-To: [email protected] >> Delivered-To: [email protected] >> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org >> X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1429028087-0538de0f6f5cbcf0001-FiEwLn >> X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: [email protected] >> X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 64.34.111.205 >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 10:16:06 -0600 >> From: Andreas J Guelzow <[email protected]> >> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; >> rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 >> MIME-Version: 1.0 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: How to save advanced-filter settings (fwd) >> References: <[email protected]> >> X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: How to save advanced-filter settings (fwd) >> In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> >> X-Barracuda-Connect: cwh16.canadianwebhosting.com[64.34.111.205] >> X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1429028087 >> X-Barracuda-URL: https://64.34.111.239:443/cgi-mod/mark.cgi >> X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at idig.net >> X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 >> X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.12 >> X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.12 using global scores of >> TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 >> QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=3.5 tests=CN_BODY_332 >> X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.3.17913 >> Rule breakdown below >> pts rule name description >> ---- ---------------------- >> -------------------------------------------------- >> 0.12 CN_BODY_332 BODY: CN_BODY_332 >> X-BeenThere: [email protected] >> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 >> Precedence: list >> List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet <gnumeric-list.gnome.org> >> List-Unsubscribe: <https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/options/gnumeric-list>, >> <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> >> List-Archive: <https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnumeric-list/> >> List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]> >> List-Help: <mailto:[email protected]?subject=help> >> List-Subscribe: <https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumeric-list>, >> <mailto:[email protected]?subject=subscribe> >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" >> Errors-To: [email protected] >> Sender: "gnumeric-list" <[email protected]> >> >> >> On 15-04-14 08:38 AM, Bob wrote: >> > OK, I see part of the problem is over the meaning of "histogram". >> > Everywhere except in spreadseets it means a graphical display. So I >> > started by clicking on the graphical display icon. If I go your route >> > I do not get a graphical display, I get a frequency table (with really >> > weird bin boundaries). >> One of the things I suggested is that in the dialog on the "Graphs & >> Options" tab you ask for the kind of chart you want. Apparently you >> asked for "No chart" so you got no chart. >> >> Andreas >> >> > Here is a nice implementation of histograms in >> > the free Stats Homework software: >> > >> > http://facultyweb.berry.edu/vbissonnette/statshw/doc/histogram.html >> > >> > If it seems like the dialog box is missing it is because at the first >> > step you get a draft histogram automatically and the dialog consists >> > of buttons to edit the default. So it takes one menu choice (which is >> > not at the end of a long trail) to get A histogram. And to edit the >> > draft you can start by just asking for more or fewer bins. You do not >> > need to compute the max. or min. of your data nor compute the bins >> > yourself. >> > >> > The reason I fuss about this is that one should never do statistical >> > analysis on any data without first making an appropriate display so >> > you can see any problems that might exist. Excel makes it really hard >> > to do that. gnumeric makes it a little easier, and it makes boxplots, >> > but it could be a LOT easier for beginners. >> > >> > Forwarded message: >> >> From [email protected] Mon Apr 13 09:52:59 2015 >> >> To: [email protected], [email protected] >> >> >> >> Le dimanche 12 avril 2015 =C3=A0 19:30 -0400, Bob a =C3=A9crit : >> >>>> In gnumeric it should be easier;-) (I actually can't figure out how to >> >>>> do it in gnumeric but I think you have to chose a lot of things >> >>>> Minitab and R will chose automatically [while still allowing you to >> >>>> override anything] What I would like is to highlight the (unbinned) >> >>>> data and select "histogram" from the graph menu and immediately see a >> >>>> histogram.). >> >> We are not that far away from this: >> >> >> >> 1) highlight the unbinned data >> >> 2) select Statistics->DescriptiveStatistics->FrequencyTables->Histogram >> >> 3) On the 'cut-off' tab select "calculated cutoffs" and enter the >> >> number=20 >> >> of bins desired. >> >> 4) On the "Graphs and Options" tabs select the type of graph >> >> 5) Click on okay. >> >> >> >> I guess we could change some of the preselected items so that (3) and=20 >> >> (4) are not necessary. >> >> >> >> Andreas >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > -------> First-time AP Stats. teacher? 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