Found & spend time to go through the whole discussion so far. I've transfered most of it briefly into https://pads.ccc.de/gnunet-website and I also gave feedback in the pad to at least most of the transfered points. Feedback to and usage of the most recent discussion status in the pad welcome.
Cheers, Fabian --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- Von: sva <[email protected]> Datum: 30.06.2019 18:22:03 An: [email protected] Betreff: Re: [GNUnet-developers] Review of the new GNUnet website > Thanks for your valuable contributions! Not the next part: > > It took me a bit longer, as two things imho need to be discussed, > especially with those people that originally made those texts last year > (where I wasn't around). > > To make that commenting easier I pasted the not-clear parts into the > file as html-comments and pasted the whole document here: > https://pads.ccc.de/gnunet-website > > Just search for "proposal from Fabian Gerlach" to find the sections. > I > also bolded them for your convenience. > > > It's also everything below, but maybe a bit easier to see in the pad :) > > > > On 6/26/19 9:18 PM, Fabian Gerlach wrote: > > > More appropriate: > > > > Regarding https://gnunet.org/ , 2nd section, 3rd sub section: > > 7 - Change "GNUnet is made for an open society" to "GNUnet > is made for a free society" > > I made: "free and open society" > > > Regarding https://gnunet.org/ , 3rd section "The Internet of tomorrow > needs GNUnet today", "Imagine..." sub section: > > 8 - Keep the hole analogy, and replace the theft analogy with a surveillance > camera analogy. Suggestion: > > "The conventional Internet is currently like a system of roads > with deep potholes and surveillance cameras all over the place. Even if you > still can use the roads (e.g. send emails, or browse websites) your vehicle > might gets damaged. And the surveillance cameras will create a movement > profile > about your life: They recognize your car license plate, track you everywhere > you drive, and save this information in a central data base." > > By replacing the incorrect theft analogy (copying is not theft) with > an analogy, which is not only correct but also practically more invasive > for every day people (it affects directly everyone using the infrastructure, > no matter if normal person or person of special interest like whistleblowers), > this section becomes more correct and striking. > > => this one we need to discuss. > I added it as a html-comment in the according section on the site. > > My 2cents: The database is (usually) not central, and the thief is > something much more "dangerous" than "just being tracked", > esp for a > "normal" person. > > Other opinions? > > > > Regarding https://gnunet.org/ , 3rd section "The Internet of tomorrow > needs GNUnet today", "The Internet is broken" sub section: > > 9 - change text " Protocols from Ethernet and IP to BGP and X.509 > PKI are insecure by default: protecting against address forgery, routers > learning metadata, or choosing trustworthy CAs is nontrivial and sometimes > impossible. > > > > GNUnet provides privacy by design, improving addressing, routing, naming > and content distribution in a technically robust manner - as opposed to ad-hoc > designs in place today." > > as follows: > > "The Internet is not designed with security in mind: The network > generally learns too much about users; it has insecure defaults and high > complexity; and it is centralized. That makes it very vulnerable for multiple > attacks massively threatening our freedom. > > > > GNUnet is built "privacy by design" and "distributed > by design". This improves addressing, routing, naming and content distribution > in a technically robust manner." > > By this change the explanation in what way the internet is broken becomes > more convincing and generally understandable. > > First part: Not sure if the new text makes it better - at this stage we > are still aiming at techies that should know what IP and BGP is, and > therefore get a clearer picture, I believe. > > Second part: Is "distributed by design" any existing term? Then > I'd add > your change. > > Group, please discuss and/or share opinions! > > > > Regarding https://gnunet.org/ , 3rd section "The Internet of tomorrow > needs GNUnet today", "Decentralization is hard" sub section: > > 10 - Simplify the 1st section, the 2nd section is already fine. Suggestion: > > "Instead of sharing common components and tools for building P2P > systems, every P2P project seems to re-invent the wheel. That highens effort > and number of vulnerabilities." > > By this change you convey same content with less words and in easier > language. The details are already covered in the 2nd section, no need for > mentioning them in 1st and 2nd section. > > Ack, changed it that way :) > > > > > Regarding https://gnunet.org/ , 3rd section "The Internet of tomorrow > needs GNUnet today", "Metadata is exposed" sub section: > > 11 - Add a short 1 sentence introduction before the current 1st sentence > of the sub section: "Metadata is just as revealing as the actual content; > and it gets exposed on the internet.". Or more personal: "Your > metadata is just as revealing as the actual content; and it gets exposed > on the internet.". > > => took the "personal one" :) Thanks! > > > The result is that the sub section looks like this: "Metadata/Your > metadata is just as revealing as the actual content; and it gets exposed > on the internet. Although transport encryption is increasingly being deployed > on the Internet, it still reveals data that can threaten democracy: the > identities > of senders and receivers, the times, frequency and the volume of communication > are all still revealed. > > By this change the point is brought across more striking and easier. > People get "It's not 'just metadata'" and "I'm exposed". > > In the source there is this comment: > <!-- Looks like a weak argumentation to me: > which <a > > href="https://www.freehaven.net/anonbib/cache/websitefingerprinting-pets2016.pdf";>enables > reverse-engineering pages visited via website > fingerprinting</a>. > --> > => what do you (unknown editor) mean with this? > > > > Regarding https://gnunet.org/ , bottom section, law information: > > 12 - Sum up the years: "2015-2019", instead of "2015, > 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019" > > Both is correct, but the suggestion is shorter and conveys the same > information in a more clear way > > => done by someone else ;) > > > 13 - Rather use the copyleft sign 🄯 / (ɔ) > > Judging by https://gnunet.org/philosophy of the old website that would > fit more to the GNUnet project > > => dont know how to edit this, can someone please give a hand? > > > Thats from me, > > cheers & thanks, > sva. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > GNUnet-developers mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnunet-developers _______________________________________________ GNUnet-developers mailing list [email protected] https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnunet-developers
