Robert, All of your discussion about what is or is not on the USPTO site with respect to this and other TMs owned by Apple is entirely irrelavent. My point is that just because the TM is abandoned according to the USPTO does not mean that Apple will not sue us for naming applications the same as they do. Do what you want, but, mark my words, it's tempting fate.
Later, GJC --Gregory Casamento ----- Original Message ---- From: Robert Slover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Gregory John Casamento <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; GNUstep dev <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 4:47:16 AM Subject: Re: Renaming GWorkspace to Workspace I don't think this is necessary. The NeXT application was called "Workspace Manager", the file wrapper was called "Workspace.app". Guerkan is asking for the file wrapper name to change, not the application name. In effect, the discussion is about what to name a directory. I just did a trademark search at the USPTO and don't find these registered. This is a bit disconcerting, because I know the "Info" dialog on NeXTStep shows the phrase "Workspace Manager" with a TM beside it, and the legalese at the front of the manuals lists this as a registered trademark. Somewhere in the info on the USPTO site I read that they have trademarks online back to 1870 or somesuch -- perhaps they only converted active ones when they made it available initially? The term "workspace" was used by NeXT generically as the conceptual synonym that we use "desktop" for now, such as in the documentation chapter "Introducing the Workspace". The application titlebar however labels the main application window "File Viewer", and everywhere else the term "Workspace Manager" is used. Interestingly, anyway, NEXTSTEP was registered in February for some insurance company, nextSTEP in January by a publishing company, and there are other variants. I do find other NeXT trademarks, marked "abandoned" in the database. One I had never seen before was "JAVASTEP", abandoned in 1997 (serial 75128859). The TESS server just stopped responding or I would cite more. Anyway, I think the abandoned trademarks are pretty good evidence that Apple/NeXT have moved on, and don't much care about the legacy NeXTStep names. Now, if you wanted to rename it "Finder", there might be an issue! Of course, IANAL. --Robert On Sep 22, 2006, at 10:55 AM, Gregory John Casamento wrote: > Enrico/Guerkan, > > I would suggest another name, such as "Workplace", or something > similar. Renaming it "Workspace" would be like me renaming Gorm as > "Interface Builder". Something tells me that might be an issue. :) > > Anyway... that's my $0.02. > > Later, GJC > > --Gregory Casamento > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Enrico Sersale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: GNUstep dev <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 8:01:57 AM > Subject: Re: Renaming GWorkspace to Workspace > > On 2006-09-22 14:28:50 +0300 Gürkan Sengün <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Hello >> >> Is there anyone against renaming the GWorkspace application to just >> Workspace >> ? >> >> I would welcome this rename. >> >> Yours, >> Guerkan > > For me it's ok. But I can only change the name of the app to > "Workspace" and change "GWorkspace" with "Workspace" in NSWorkspace.m. > (I can't rename tons of classes and ivars that actually have the "GW" > prefix...). > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gnustep-dev mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnustep-dev > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gnustep-dev mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnustep-dev > _______________________________________________ Gnustep-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnustep-dev _______________________________________________ Gnustep-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnustep-dev
