> Am 31.10.2019 um 21:47 schrieb Yavor Doganov <ya...@gnu.org>: > >> For what it's worth, I've spoken to a couple of GCC devs over the >> last few years about supporting modern Objective-C (because I would >> like us to have a choice of compilers), but the effort involved for >> them is huge (even a naive ARC implementation is a big piece of >> effort) and the return is small (why would anyone use it? > > You are right that it's a monumental effort and that they probably > don't have the motivation. The pool of free software written in > Objective-C is rather small and it doesn't tend to increase.
More FUD! Are you aware of https://github.com/topics/objective-c <https://github.com/topics/objective-c> ? Or https://github.com/trending?l=objective-c <https://github.com/trending?l=objective-c> Well, that might not be software ready for GNUstep, but it is Open Source Software written in ObjC. Regarding GCC and ObjC: Some years ago I was regularly doing regression testing for GCC with a special focus on ObjC. I supported several regressions then: https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?cf_known_to_fail_type=allwords&cf_known_to_work_type=allwords&email1=lars.sonchocky-helldorf%40hamburg.de&emaillongdesc1=1&emailreporter1=1&emailtype1=substring&f1=reporter&list_id=248707&o1=equals&query_format=advanced <https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?cf_known_to_fail_type=allwords&cf_known_to_work_type=allwords&email1=lars.sonchocky-helld...@hamburg.de&emaillongdesc1=1&emailreporter1=1&emailtype1=substring&f1=reporter&list_id=248707&o1=equals&query_format=advanced> you are free to read the comments on those bugs. I only remember specific hostility towards ObjC on the part of GCC developers: bugs where closed as won’t fix or have been postponed over and over again as „being not release critically“, even regressions. My impression was that ObjC is simply not taken seriously by GCC developers. Instead, such marvels as D are praised on the homepage of GCC: https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-9/changes.html#d <https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-9/changes.html#d> (linked prominently from https://gcc.gnu.org <https://gcc.gnu.org/> ). For that reason I was very happy when LLVM/Clang finally appeared on the stage. regards, Lars
