Or am I just using GoCD wrong? I know there's the concept of environments.
Maybe we should have one GoCD server with an environment for each team
instead of a  GoCD servers for a team.

On Sat, May 8, 2021, 10:44 PM HUSSEIN KADIRI <[email protected]> wrote:

> ok got it. This approach works if you're managing a few goCD servers but
> it  doesn't really scale if you have to manage a lot of GoCD servers. We
> have a setup where each team has their own CI system. It would be quite
> painful managing each system this way. Also we aim to have one touch push
> button deployments. Having to interact with the UI to set things up won't
> quite work there.
>
> On Sat, May 8, 2021, 10:37 PM Marques Lee <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Certainly possible that I misinterpreted your question. If it was more
>> about “how do I get started to configure GoCD and learn to how make changes
>> thereafter” I’d just start with the vanilla settings that the UI creates.
>> There’s an option in the admin menu to view the current effective config
>> xml and even edit it right there (validating any changes before saving).
>> Making bulk changes in the UI is inefficient so sometimes we configure
>> something once, open the config xml view/edit page, copy the xml our
>> favorite code editor (eg, sublime, vscode) and use the editor’s advance
>> text manipulation facilities to replicate config blocks to however many we
>> need and then paste it back into config xml GoCD page to validate/save.
>>
>> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 10:25 PM Marques Lee <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hmm, well you could always keep your cruise config in source control of
>>> course, just like you might do with any other service config.
>>>
>>> However, what we do internally for build.gocd.org is to utilize the
>>> backup feature of GoCD — it’s not just the server config that you’ll want
>>> to track, but also your data in the database that keeps track of pipeline
>>> history and such. The backup feature will save all of that for you to an
>>> archive. We persist them nightly to S3 IIRC. Our config folder and
>>> flyweight folders, etc are all bind-mounted into the container at
>>> provisioning.
>>>
>>> Is that the kind of info you're looking for?
>>>
>>> -Marques
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 10:07 PM HUSSEIN KADIRI <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Marques.
>>>> Curious what's the best/common/recommended practice on  configs around
>>>> configuring from scratch and making incremental changes?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 7, 2021, 5:40 PM Marques Lee <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think that has been talked about for a long time (actually, in the
>>>>> context of doing doing full server config as code) but hasn’t materialized
>>>>> unfortunately :(. Probably won’t happen for a long time until someone gets
>>>>> enough time on their hands (and maybe an external committer at that —
>>>>> that’s actually how we initially gained support for pipelines as config).
>>>>>
>>>>> So while I’d love to tell you “yes we’re working on it” the reality is
>>>>> nobody’s taken the time to truly explore it since XML does work and is
>>>>> doing “good enough.” 🤷🏻‍♂️
>>>>>
>>>>> -Marques
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 5:36 PM HUSSEIN KADIRI <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah XML is a bummer :( Any plans of replacing it with yaml :)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, May 7, 2021, 5:33 PM Marques Lee <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What you can do is configure things in the UI and then copy the
>>>>>>> resulting XML file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We also document all of this configuration here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://docs.gocd.org/current/configuration/configuration_reference.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 5:31 PM Marques Lee <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh I see, so server config.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can just create the cruise-config.xml file and provision that
>>>>>>>> in the server config dir.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, I know it’s XML (yuck) and not something nicer, but it works.
>>>>>>>> That’s where GoCD keeps its canonical configuration (the UI changes 
>>>>>>>> result
>>>>>>>> in direct changes to this xml file)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Marques
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 5:27 PM HUSSEIN KADIRI <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> not referring to configuring pipelines.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All the examples in the yaml plugin point to configure pipelines.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I want to configure the GoCD server itself in preferably
>>>>>>>>> yaml.format. Like configuring the elastic agent profiles. Etc. Are 
>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>> examples of those?
>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 7, 2021, 5:20 PM Marques Lee <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes! We have several plugins to do pipelines as code.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Officially, we support Groovy DSL, YAML, and JSON.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The JSON and YAML plugins are built in, but groovy needs to be
>>>>>>>>>> downloaded and copied into the plugins dir. the Groovy plugin offers 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> most flexibility since you have a general purpose programming 
>>>>>>>>>> language, but
>>>>>>>>>> YAML and JSON are still quite capable for most.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Docs/Source code:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> YAML:
>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/tomzo/gocd-yaml-config-plugin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> JSON:
>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/tomzo/gocd-json-config-plugin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Groovy DSL:
>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/gocd-contrib/gocd-groovy-dsl-config-plugin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Marques
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 5:14 PM HUSSEIN KADIRI <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.gocd.org/current/advanced_usage/pipelines_as_code.html
>>>>>>>>>>> talks about configuring pipeline configuration repo via the UI.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can the configuration be done programatically?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe by updating the helm chart or some API?
>>>>>>>>>>>
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