I Don't deny these instances. But i am sure you will agree that these are more an exception rather than the rule? Albertina
On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 2:28 PM John de Figueiredo <[email protected]> wrote: > Albertina, > There were instances in Goa in which the husband moved into the wife’s > house without being “ghor zanvoi”. This happened with my paternal > grandfather Luiz Caetano de Figueiredo and two of his brothers. > John M de Figueiredo > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 29, 2023, at 2:50 AM, Albertina Almeida < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Thank you for posting this. > > Yes, there are matrimonial property rights in Goa, and that incidentally > was the subject of my Ph. D, thesis. > > But the problem is how it translates in an unequal patrilocal society. > The matrimonial property rights are also enjoyed by the husband to his > wife's share in her ancestral properties, for which he does no work > (usually) like she does to his assets, given that she moves to his > house/2-3 generation house) after marriage (ghor zanvoi being an > exception). So having a law equal across the genders doesn't mean justice > in an unequal patrilocal society. > > Because we consider Goa's 'uniform' civil code' as a holy cow, many Goans > do not want to discuss the problems, which lie partly with the content of > the law and partly with its implementation. Most do not even want to plug > into the debate on Uniforn Civil Code, when whatever is the outcome of that > is going to have a bearing on Goans. > > Sincerely > > Albertina > > > > > On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 3:30 PM PEDRO MASCARENHAS <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Do they have it in practice or in theory? The laws shine on the shelves. >> >> Tensing Rodrigues <[email protected]> escreveu no dia quarta, 28/06/2023 >> à(s) 10:51: >> >>> What's so great about it ? Goan housewives have had it for ages. >>> >>> On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 15:18, 'Pedro Mascarenhas' via Goa-Research-Net < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> [image: Inline image] >>>> >>>> *An Indian court's recent verdict that significantly expands the rights >>>> of homemakers over their husband's property has been hailed as a positive >>>> sign by women's rights advocates.* >>>> >>>> On 21 June, the Madras high court - in the southern state of Tamil Nadu >>>> - passed a verdict in a domestic dispute case that allowed a housewife >>>> equal share in her husband's property. >>>> >>>> Experts say this is the first time an Indian court has formally >>>> recognised the contribution of a housewife to the husband's income. They, >>>> however, point out that the verdict is not binding on other states unless >>>> the country's Supreme Court rules along similar lines in future. >>>> >>>> The wife works for 24 hours in various roles, including that of a chef, >>>> a "home doctor" and a "home economist", the court said. In the absence of >>>> the homemaker's duties, the husband would have to pay for the services >>>> these roles provided. >>>> >>>> "By performing these skills, a wife makes the home a comfortable >>>> environment and her contribution towards the family, and certainly it is >>>> not a valueless job, but it is a job doing for 24 hours without holidays, >>>> which cannot be less equated with that of the job of an earning husband who >>>> works only for 8 hours," the court noted. >>>> Women's rights lawyer Flavia Agnes called it a "very positive >>>> judgement because it recognises women's domestic labour". >>>> >>>> Madras high court: A new India verdict recognises value of women's work >>>> <https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-65996250> >>>> >>>> Madras high court: A new India verdict recognises value of women's work >>>> >>>> The judgement in a domestic dispute case allowed a housewife equal >>>> share in her husband's property. >>>> <https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-65996250> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/331267065.196954.1687944942521%40mail.yahoo.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/331267065.196954.1687944942521%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/CABPxU2geGHaqu9vnZdDS8FZ0tJyFhvFN5h%3D76u7XVX-ShsRAAA%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/CABPxU2geGHaqu9vnZdDS8FZ0tJyFhvFN5h%3D76u7XVX-ShsRAAA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> >> >> -- >> Pedro Mascarenhas >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Goa-Research-Net" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/CAKgQwHDu7FrBeL0v_PH8pCqyqCDVe7EJBJurJSfmSHnTdToSGw%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/CAKgQwHDu7FrBeL0v_PH8pCqyqCDVe7EJBJurJSfmSHnTdToSGw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Goa-Research-Net" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/CACbS_uRK0JNkPPfAf6-HGJvD0Xf4Q6qeSatBge5J9_3SPrmDAQ%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/CACbS_uRK0JNkPPfAf6-HGJvD0Xf4Q6qeSatBge5J9_3SPrmDAQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Goa-Research-Net" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/9C3A62D5-701D-43CF-99E8-E96FB27AD6F6%40sbcglobal.net > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/9C3A62D5-701D-43CF-99E8-E96FB27AD6F6%40sbcglobal.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. 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