Hindsight, they say, is perfect vision. 20/20. FN On Wednesday 13 December 2023 at 03:51:11 UTC+5:30 Nuno Cardoso da Silva wrote:
> Pity Salazar did not recognize how well founded Bruto da Costa's idea was. > It would have been a lot better for millions of peoples in three continents. > > > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 12, 2023 at 10:54 AM > *From:* "Edgar Valles" <[email protected]> > > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [GRN] Pamphlets > Antonio Bruto da Costa and a quite large group of goans wanted a "terceira > via" (third path). This is the title of the book his son, Mario Bruto do > Costa published. > They didn't want Goa to stay as a Portuguese colony but they also didn't > want to be integrated in India, saying that goans had their own identity. > They thought it was possible a third path and also that Portugal should > allow goans to decide what they wanted. > He has sent letters to Salazar and had many problems with Portuguese > authorities. > Of course, it was a dream, considering the historical situation of Goa, a > tiny territory encircled by India... > But it is interesting for those who study decolonization to know that > there was this third path.... > > > > > Aviso de Confidencialidade > > Este correio eletrónico, assim como qualquer ficheiro anexo ao mesmo > contém informação confidencial e legalmente protegida, exclusivamente > dirigida ao destinatário. 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If you received this e-mail in error or > without authorization, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and > delete the e-mail from your system; information protected by professional > secrecy contained in the Statute of the Bar Association of the Portuguese > Republic. Thank you in advance > > Eugene Correia <[email protected]> escreveu no dia segunda, 11/12/2023 > à(s) 23:09: > >> Hi all, >> It's nice to remember A.A. Bruto da Costa and his thoughts on why he felt >> it was a "tragi-comedy". I read it many years ago, and have forgotten the >> gist of it now. I would like to read it again, but my copy is all in >> tatters. Revisiting those heady days of the pre-Liberation/Annexation >> period and the post-Liberation/Annexation passage of time. I have no >> experience of those days when Goa was on the boil. >> As for Selma's remarks, let me say that I visited Goa just for three >> weeks to a month during my school and college days. During my working >> period in Bombay, I made trips to Goa for a week or so. The only time I was >> there for a long time was when I went for the National Football >> Championships -- Santosh Trophy. -- hosted by Goa, as I did some reporting. >> I visited very rarely. Though i am from Colva and we had a house, which is >> land-grabbed by a notorious guy who was a panch, we went to our mom's house >> in Bogmalo. >> I wish someone could scan the play by Bruto da Costa and make it >> available to those who want to read it. Margao had its own crowd which >> fancied the Portuguese. >> Eugene >> >> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 9:03 AM 'Helder Garmes' via Goa-Research-Net < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Dear Eugene Correia, >>> I know the letter to Nehru was published in Portuguese in the book *Goa: >>> Terceira >>> Corrente - discursos, artigos, cartas e defesas forenses *(2013), by >>> Bruto da Costa. >>> Best, >>> Helder >>> >>> Em seg., 11 de dez. de 2023 às 08:51, sandra lobo <[email protected]> >>> escreveu: >>> >>>> Bruto da Costa was a lawyer, journalist and politician who defended the >>>> right of Goan people to decide their own political future >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sandra Ataíde Lobo >>>> >>>> >>>> Home (gieipc-ip.org) <https://www.gieipc-ip.org/> >>>> https://praticasdahistoria.pt/ >>>> >>>> tmn. ++351 930690459 <+351%20930%20690%20459> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *De:* [email protected] <[email protected]> em >>>> nome de Eugene Correia <[email protected]> >>>> *Enviado:* 6 de dezembro de 2023 15:27 >>>> *Para:* [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>> *Assunto:* Re: [GRN] Pamphlets >>>> >>>> I saw in my small collection, a tattered copy of Yesterday, Today >>>> and... Tomorrow, A Tragicomedy in Three Acts and Twelve Scenes, by A.A >>>> Bruto da Costa, and I suppose he was a Doctor, perhaps a medical doctor. >>>> It >>>> was published in 1963. >>>> However, I post here to know if anyone has a copy, for the first page >>>> of mine is tattered and the cover-page and inside page is unreadable. If >>>> some has the play, I wish to get a copy of the cover and inside pages. I >>>> read it decades ago, and since the Goa Liberation anniversary is coming >>>> up, >>>> I wish to quote from it. I am not very sure know if the play was an >>>> attempt >>>> at India's takeover of Goa and what the future holds or was it predicting >>>> a >>>> "tragicomedy", as Bruto da Costa envisaged Goa would become in later years. >>>> I know he addressed a Letter to Nehru, but don't know where I could >>>> locate it. Does anyone know if it's in the Goa University Library or >>>> elsewhere? >>>> Also re-reading, Goan Struggle for Freedom by M.K. Gandhi, published by >>>> Navajivan Publishing House. Recollecting Liberation and the glow of >>>> freedom. Where has Goa gone? >>>> >>>> Eugene Correia >>>> >>>> >>>> Eugene Correia >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 10:04 AM V M <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Frederick, >>>> >>>> Thank you very much for that German resource on Swahili - it turns out >>>> the first known written literature in that language was found in Goa! >>>> Amazing fact. I will examine closely for more places to look. >>>> >>>> About the avid embrace of English language education by Goans in Goa >>>> from the first decades of the 19th century, yes it is true it happened >>>> first in the Bardez villages where the majority of educated men went off >>>> to >>>> work in British India (and later to Persia, Aden, East Africa and >>>> Singapore >>>> as well). But by the 20th century, it was routine for all families of >>>> means >>>> to send their children to study in boarding schools across the border in >>>> Belgaum, Pune and much farther afield as well. >>>> >>>> It has always fascinated me how disproportionately the Goans were >>>> represented from the beginning of college education "for natives" in >>>> Bombay >>>> - the first class at Grant Medical College was half Goans! >>>> >>>> Warm regards, >>>> >>>> VM >>>> >>>> On Wed, 6 Dec 2023, 02:06 fredericknoronha, <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Tuesday 5 December 2023 at 19:08:55 UTC+5:30 vmingoa wrote: >>>> >>>> Goans in Goa pursued English language education with much alacrity from >>>> the second half of the 19th century. Few peoples anywhere - but especially >>>> the subcontinent - have ever embraced English so enthusiastically as the >>>> Goans. There's no question of imposition but merely access to opportunity, >>>> and Portuguese lost out for very good reasons. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Would you see this as happening uniformly across Goa or in some >>>> pockets (such as parts of Bardez, and among the daispora in the then >>>> English-ruled regions)?* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Elsewhere, of course, like all other Indians in their transnational >>>> dispersal, Goans have adopted and mastered a wide range of languages.I >>>> have >>>> been looking for Goan writing in Swahili. There must be some. 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