Fred, These are not assumptions, these are facts. There is a place in the UK called Swindon where for some reason, most of the Goan population there originate from these two specific villages - Siridao and Agacaim. It is like entire villages are teleported here. They also bring in their age old feuds and other maladies here. They were neighbours in Goa and they choose to be neighbours here... totally absurd. Even the local British police now know every single Konkani bad word, wish you could see the street fights these Goan people have here... similar to the widely uneducated Portuguese emigrants from the country side and the islands, who pickup fights amongst themselves after a few drinks during Portugal day (the venue gets changed regularly due to the local authorities banning them from their land). These Goans are mostly uneducated folk, who come here and only tarnish the good Goan image that existed for a long time. Their kids, who are supposedly more educated, even take their own parents to court in case they get shouted at or smacked. So the parents have no control of themselves leave along of their very own kids. Some kids even claimed that they have forgotten Konkani after a year or so and claim they are British now! Nothing to do with professions, purely manners and education. They are absolutely raw. Similar kind of pattern of Goan migration to Australia and New Zealand, it is all about education. Not class based comments. These new 'Portuguese passport emigrants' don't represent the vast majority of Catholics settled here in the UK who are quite educated, had been here for decades and have integrated into the general society. The former live in a gheto kind of style, hence the problem... I have nothing against them personally, but many Goans here in central London and elsewhere distance themselves from these two villages' citizens. They are an embarrassment, specially when the local press publishes articles about problems and issues with that Goan community, everybody gets painted by the same brush... They are entitled to their opinions, no problem there, but these opinions are not representative of the vast Goan majority here. That is why they get the statistics all wrong, yet, they are taken at face value, which shouldn't be the case. The Kiwi reporter should had done a better job, had they been to a proper journalist course - one has to validate data given. Hence he/she must be some local farmer lad who just got a job as a journalist and did not do their homework before publishing. Hope you understand my point. JP
________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of fredericknoronha <[email protected]> Sent: 12 December 2023 22:33 To: Goa-Research-Net <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [GRN] Re: Fake news about Goa I don't agree with this class-based slur against the people of "Siridao and Agacaim". On what basis? That they may be sons and daughters of the soil, and less burdened with the overload of a formal education and "knowledge"? Or that they are more recent migrants to the Western world, including NZ, maybe lower down on the pecking ladder? And then, what do we have against "Kiwi farmer background reporters"? Either they do their job well, or they don't. Background is immaterial here. Besides this, the current crisis in the media makes people do strange things too! Click-bait headlines is just one of these. So, I don't agree with you, João Paulo. Let us not forget that even supposedly educated Catholic migrants to East Africa often believed that "Goa is Catholic". In their case, the only "excuse" they had was that the Goan diaspora in that part of the world (definitely till the 1960s) was 99% Catholic... and that is all they saw. Nobody has a monopoly over being ill-informed. Or even not wanting to let the facts come in the way of a good story and/or headline. FN On Wednesday 13 December 2023 at 03:52:11 UTC+5:30 Joao Paulo Cota wrote: When village people, possibly Siridao and Agacaim meetup with Kiwi farmer background reporters, this is the result. Sheer ignorance. That expression probably originates around China, where, when I was once on a teaching assignment at Shanghai, I was told at a dinner that 'the only thing the Chinese do not eat with four legs are the tables'. The only consolation is that that newspaper has a microscopic circulation and most of them must had been recycled on their fish and chips takeaways. Worth writing to the editor to correct the statistics though... before it is cloned elsewhere on another website... and then becomes a 'fact'. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/60af4ff3-d95e-4337-8ad1-a1844337bcd1n%40googlegroups.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/60af4ff3-d95e-4337-8ad1-a1844337bcd1n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/GV2P195MB2161C13979DBAD0D682B464F828EA%40GV2P195MB2161.EURP195.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM.
