Dear Sonia, I was growing up in Goa in those days, and do not agree that the
term 'caneco' was used by the Portuguese to identify a class of people who
washed their posteriors after defecating; it was just a racist slur. The mixed
race mestizo boys were as racist in Portuguese-held Goa as the Anglo-Indians
were in "British India". Attitudes changed after Independence, but they changed
very very slowly.
Warmest regards,Victor
On Wednesday, June 5, 2024 at 12:56:23 PM EDT, Sonia Gomes
<[email protected]> wrote:
Thank you very much Tino. For years my Aunt who was in Liceu was insulted by
the mestico boys. They said, ' bonita esta caneca' because she was beautiful.
She never knew the meaning. In fact no one did. This is brilliant and fits in.
Thank you very much.
On Wed, 5 Jun, 2024, 8:30 pm Tino de Sa, <[email protected]> wrote:
I think that 'caneco' arose from the fact that Goan Catholics, in spite of
having adopted Portuguese ways in many respects, chose to ignore the use of
toilet paper and preferred to use mugs of water to clean themselves.
The Portuguese found this amusing - people wearing western clothes, speaking
Portuguese, culturally Portuguese in many ways - but using mugs of water after
they defecated.Hence the derogatory nickname.Tino
On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 1:08 AM Frederick Noronha <[email protected]>
wrote:
Just a reminder on what the earlier discussion on this issue said (in case
anyone is interested). Via Goanet:
- [Goanet] Canecos Carvalho
- [Goanet] Canecos Gabriel de Figueiredo
- [Goanet] Canecos Carvalho
- [Goanet] Canecos Antonio Menezes
- [Goanet] Canecos Alfred de Tavares
- [Goanet] Canecos Roland Francis
- [Goanet] Canecos Alfred de Tavares
- [Goanet] Canecos Victor Rangel-Ribeiro
- [Goanet] Canecos Carvalho
- [Goanet] Canecos Gabriel de Figueiredo
- [Goanet] Canecos Santosh Helekar
- [Goanet] Canecos Gilbert Lawrence
- [Goanet] Canecos Carvalho
- [Goanet] Canecos Gilbert Lawrence
- [Goanet] Canecos Monica Reis
- [Goanet] Canecos Bernado Colaco
- [Goanet] Canecos Carvalho
- [Goanet] Canecos Gabe Menezes
- [Goanet] Canecos Venantius Pinto
- [Goanet] Canecos Gilbert Lawrence
- [Goanet] Canecos Mario Goveia
- [Goanet] Canecos Gabe Menezes
- [Goanet] Canecos Con Menezes
- [Goanet] Canecos and other racial slurs Carvalho
- [Goanet] Canecos Antonio Menezes
- [Goanet] Canecos Victor Rangel-Ribeiro
[Goanet-News] Goanet highlights: Who or what is a caneco? (Selma Carvalho)
Goanet News Sun, 19 Jul 2009 04:11:54 -0700
Goanet highlights by Selma Carvalho
One of the interesting discussion on Goanet has been about the word
“canecos”. The Portuguese used this word, often as a racial slur, for
Catholic Goans but opinions were divided as to its actual meaning.
Here are some of the more interesting viewpoints shared by Goanet
members.Gabriel de Figueiredo:
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/179875.html
Bernado Colaco:
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/179941.html
Monica Reis of the Indo-Portuguese Art Research Project:
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/179934.html
Con Menezes:
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180027.html
Although a consensus was not reached on its actual meaning, there is a
strong possibility that it is a corruption of the word “canarims,” the
old Portuguese word for people of the Konkan coast. The fact that in
Africa, only Catholic Goans were called “canecos” and not the
Africans, leads credence to this theory.
On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 at 00:08, 'Carvalho' via Goa-Research-Net
<[email protected]> wrote:
Dear members,
I have for many years been trying to find out the exact meaning of this slur
that was used for Goans by the Portuguese 'caneco.' About a decade ago we had
an interesting discussion on Goanet about this but nothing conclusive was
arrived at. The word itself means mug, but how and why was it used as a slur.
Any imput appreciated.Thank you,selma
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