Thanks to everyone that has been involved. >From someone who followed all of this from the sidelines.
Henri On 2011-12-13, at 7:22 PM, Stevan Harnad wrote: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Stevan Harnad <amsciforum at gmail.com> > Date: Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:02 PM > Subject: AmSci Forum Migrating to Global Open Access List (GOAL): New > Moderator, Richard Poynder > To: American Scientist Open Access Forum > <AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM at listserver.sigmaxi.org> > > > Dear AmSci Forum, > > The straw poll is complete (the full results are reproduced at the end > of this message). > > The vote is for (1) continuing the Forum, under (2) the moderatorship > of Richard Poynder. > > The AmSci list will now be migrating to > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal where the BOAI > list is also being hosted. > > You need not re-subscribe. Your subscription will be automatically > transferred to the new host site. > > The name of the list has been changed to the Global Open Access List > (GOAL) to reflect the fact that Open Access is no longer just an > American or a Scientific matter. It has become a global movement. > > The old AmSci Forum Archives (1998-2011) will stay up at the Sigma Xi > site (indefinitely, I hope -- though we do have copies of the entire > archive). > > The new GOAL archive, starting 2012 will be at: > > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/pipermail/goal/ > > (Till the end of December, AmSci and GOAL will run in duplicate. > Although we hope the transfer will be smooth, there may be a few > glitches. We apologize and hope you will be patient until they are > sorted out.) > > Stevan Harnad (soon to be replaced by Richard Poynder!) > > --- > > Below are the complete results of Straw Poll on whether to continue > the Forum, and on who should be the new moderator: > > AGAINST CONTINUING AMSCI: > > ARIF JINHA: I believe it would be better to have one forum, the BOAI. > This forum has developed a doctrinal bias defined by the values and > personality of its leadership. Though the leadership is to be > commended for its credibility and vigour, it is not without its blind > spots. It has not always OPEN to a diversity of perspectives. AMSCI > is driven by assertive and competitive advocacy for mandates over Gold > OA publishing. The rush to conclusion on the right path is premature > and overly authoritative in its expression, therefore it is > alienating. In truth, we have only really got started with the web in > the last 10 years and authority is completely flattened by the > learning curve. The BOAI is much wider in its representation of Open > Access alternatives, it is therefore more neutral as well as having a > wider reach for the promotion of Green OA. It means less duplication > and less work devoted to instant communication, giving more time to > develop a rigorous and scientific approach to meta-scholarship in the > digital age. > > FOR CONTINUING AMSCI: > > DANA ROTH: I would disagree with Arif Jinha, in that it is the > 'assertive and competitive advocacy for mandates over Gold OA > publishing' that make AMSCI such an interesting listserv. > > SUBBIAH ARUNACHALAM: First, I wish to express my grateful thanks to > Stevan for all that he has done so far, and in particular for > moderating this Forum for so long and so well. That he will continue > to devote much of his time to promoting open access and institutional > repositories gives me strength to do the same. Second, if Richard > Poynder agrees (or if we could persuade him) to moderate this list, > there is nothing like it. The baton would have moved to safe hands. > Not only he has the stamina of a long distance runner, but he is also > endowed with the qualities needed for a moderator. He is knowledgeable > and levelheaded. Welcome Richard! > > DOMINIQUE BABINI: Discussions and ideas in this forum are also > inspiring for regional OA forums and lists, e.g., the Latin America > and the Caribbean Open Access List (LLAAR, in Spanish). Thank you, > Stevan, for your dedication as moderator all these years, and > especially for your new OA initiatives and ideas. Thank you for your > Skype contribution at the OA Experts Meeting last week in UNESCO > headquarters, where we missed you [in person]. I also support Richard > Poynder as [new] moderator for this Forum. > > MICHAEL E. SMITH: I am in favor of continuing the list, and either of > the people you mentioned as potential moderators would be good > choices. > > PAOLA GARGIULO: I also agree that the list should continue. I'm in > favour or Richard Poynder as moderator. Hope you will continue to > contribute. > > PETER SUBER: If Richard is willing to moderate, I vote for him. I > second Alma's reasons why Richard would do well in this role. I > second Arthur's best wishes to you, and I second (or third) Barbara > and H?l?ne's tribute to your work. Finally, as the former moderator > of SOAF and BOAI, I welcome you to civilian life. It's amazing what > one can do when one has more time to do it. > > BERNARD RENTIER: I vote for Richard Poynder. The excellence of his > critical and fair papers speaks for his designation. If he is willing > to do that, I am sure he will be an outstanding moderator. And that > this will let Stevan be even more tirelessly to the point in every > debate! > > TOM COCHRANE: The value of the Forum cannot be overstated. It has > provided a unique service in assessing the events and health of OA > developments. It would be a regressive step in several ways if it were > to fall over. It is not too much to claim that its way of charting > developments, alerting readers to new issues, identifying useful > research and work on OA, and in your hands, reminding its readership > of the main issues ? all these have had a direct impact on practical > developments. This has occurred to a degree that no single one of us ? > from whatever part of the world - can comprehensively take in. But > believe me, it has played a vital role. But individual workloads need > to be shared, and we at QUT understand your reasoning. We are happy > with the Richard Poynder suggestion. > > ELOY RODRIGUES: I also support Richard Poynder for moderator. I > strongly support the continuation of the AmSci Forum, and I regret > your decision of stepping down as moderator (even though I understand > your reasons, and I do hope that it will turn out the right decision > for you, and your efforts for OA progress). Thanks for your tireless > work for Open Access! All the best (from Rio de Janeiro, where I was > also archivangilizing for ID/OA mandates, at the Portuguese-Brazilian > OA conference). > > KEITH JEFFERY: I am sorry it has come to this; you know I support your > point of view and moderation does require correction of misconceptions > as well as just posting. I wish the Amsci list to continue and Richard > is, of course, an excellent choice as future moderator. > > ANDREW A ADAMS: I am in favour of the forum continuing to operate. I > feel Richard would make an excellent new moderator. > > PIPPA SMART: I am in favour of the forum continuing and would be very > happy for Richard Poynder to moderate. > > MARC COUTURE: I definitely wish the forum to continue. I may be only > the occasional contributor, but I've always been a very steady reader. > As to you not being the moderator anymore, I think it's even a good > thing, not because I share the opinion that a moderator should be > neutral and discreet, but because it will spare you some precious time > you could devote to useful purposes, OA-related or not. Note that I > assume we will continue to benefit, in the forum, from the seemingly > inexhaustible energy and the flawless, razor-sharp logic of our > "weary" archivangelist. > > BARRY MAHON: As a long time stirring stick in the OA (hard to know > what word to use to describe it) world, and having crossed swords with > both Stevan and Richard over the years, I have a heavy heart in > accepting Stevan's decision but an uplift that Richard has > volunteered. It will, I wish, go on....and I'll be there, or here, > whichever is the more appropriate. > > JEAN-CLAUDE GU?DON: I also think this list should go on. And having > Richard or Thomas moderate is a good idea too. > > BOB PARKS: Congratulations on stepping down. I hope it gives you more > time to pursue OA!!! Either Krichel or Poynder would be a good > moderator. I fear that Krichel is over committed. > > HEATHER MORRISON: Thanks very much for moderating the list all these > years! I hope that the list will continue, and would support either > Richard Poynder or Thomas Krichel as moderators. > > SALLY MORRIS: The support for Richard as moderator of the continuing > list seems clear. We really don't need to see all the messages - I > thought that was the point of keeping them off the list? > > THOMAS KRICHEL: I think it should continue, as it appears to be the > largest and most active forum. I volunteer to do it?. If Richard > wants to do it, I'd be happy not to. > > RICHARD POYNDER: Well I certainly vote for it to continue. I would > even put my name down for the moderator's hat if it was felt > appropriate for a journalist to run such a forum, and people believed > I could do the job adequately > > ALMA SWAN: I am writing to nominate Richard Poynder as the new > moderator for the AmSci Forum. I think he brings the right qualities - > amongst them honesty, fairness, intellectual curiousness and > efficiency - and is hugely respected as an independent, critical > thinker on the issues that AmSci covers. I want the Forum to continue > because it is a real discussion list rather than a bulletin board? > > HELENE BOSC: In memory of the remarkable work done by Stevan Harnad > for Open Access through this list, during 14 years, I wish it > continues... Richard Poynder would be a perfect moderator! > > BARBARA KIRSOP: If Stevan feels he can better operate in support of OA > not as the moderator, then it would be great indeed if Richard Poynder > would adopt the mantle. I think AMSCI should continue. I am somewhat > in favour of a name change to highlight OA rather than the US - a name > change could be a mini-re-launch perhaps and bring in new contributors > - a fitting tribute to Stevan's past efforts. > > ARTHUR SALE: May I wish you the best as non-moderator. It is the right > decision for you, I think. This may be a shock to you that I think > that it is a plus, but I think we need to get new ideas into the OA > transition, and you have done your bit and a lot more? and perhaps I > can even convince you eventually that the Titanium Road is the way to > go now! You will be bombarded with messages begging you to reconsider, > but I do think it is the right decision. Then you can enjoy being > yourself without constraint. No one person can bear the weight of the > world, not even Atlas. > > IRYNA KUCHMA:The AmSci Open Access Forum is an active discussion forum > (SOAF and BOAI are more like the announcement lists) and my answer is > (1) definitely to continue. It's sad that you've decided to step down > as a moderator. I wish I could help you with moderating it, but I am > travelling a lot and sometimes not able to moderate the BOAI on time?. > Hope you will find the ways to continue. > > EUGENE GARFIELD: When I think about Stevan Harnad another information > pioneer comes to mind. The Belgian documentalist Paul Otlet. His > collaborator Henri LaFontaine, received the Nobel Peace Prize. That's > the kind of recognition that Stevan deserves. > > MICHAEL KURTZ: I liked that AMSCI reflected your point of view, I value that, > and expect I will always. I hope I will always be able to discover > it, perhaps you will frequently post. > > _______________________________________________ > GOAL mailing list > GOAL at eprints.org > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal >
