Not that I know. I think the French Research Performing Organizations are not 
planning to put negotiation with editors as a premise to defining their own OA 
policy. 
Laurent


Le 20 juin 2012 à 11:45, Wise, Alicia (ELS-OXF) a écrit :

> Hi Laurent,
>  
> Institutions already do have agreements with publishers via their libraries 
> and/or library consortia.  This is certainly the case for INRIA. 
>  
> With kind wishes,
>  
> Alicia
>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Laurent Romary
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:11 AM
> To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
> Subject: [GOAL] Re: Why should publishers agree to Green OA?
>  
> This definitely makes no sense. Institutions are not going to start 
> negotiating agreements with all publishers one by one. Does Elsevier have so 
> much man power left to start negotiating with all institutions one by one as 
> well. The corresponding budget could then probably used to reduce 
> subscriptions prices ;-)
> Laurent
>  
> Le 20 juin 2012 à 09:53, Wise, Alicia (ELS-OXF) a écrit :
> 
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> Just a quick point of clarification…. Elsevier doesn’t forbid posting if 
> there is a mandate.  We ask for an agreement with the institution that has 
> the mandate, and there is no cost for these agreements.  The purpose of these 
> agreements is to work out a win-win solution to find a way for the underlying 
> journals in which academics choose to publish to be sustainable even if there 
> are high posting rates.
>  
> With kind wishes,
>  
> Alicia
>  
> Dr Alicia Wise
> Director of Universal Access
> Elsevier I The Boulevard I Langford Lane I Kidlington I Oxford I OX5 1GB
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>  
>  
>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Peter Murray-Rust
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 7:23 PM
> To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
> Subject: [GOAL] Why should publishers agree to Green OA?
>  
>  
> I have some simple questions about Green OA. I don't know the answers.
> 
> * is there any *contractual* relationship between a Green-publisher and any 
> legal body? Or is Green simply a permission granted unilaterally by 
> publishers when they feel like it, and withdrawable when they don't.
> * if Green starts impacting on publishers' revenues (and I understand this is 
> part of the Green strategy - when we have 100% Green then publishers will 
> have to change) what stops them simply withdrawing the permission? Or 
> rationing it? Or any other anti-Green measure
> * Do publishers receive any funding from anywhere for allowing Green? Green 
> is extra work for them - why should they increase the amount they do?
> * Is there any body which regularly "negotiates" with publishers such as ACS, 
> who categorically forbid Green for now and for ever.
> 
> Various publishers seem to indicate that they will allow Green as long as 
> it's a relatively small percentage. But, as Stevan has noted, if your 
> institution mandates Green, then Elsevier forbids it. So I cannot see why, if 
> Green were to reach - say - 50%, the publishers wouldn't simply ration it and 
> prevent 100%.  
> 
> 
> -- 
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> University of Cambridge
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