Not that I know. I think the French Research Performing Organizations are not planning to put negotiation with editors as a premise to defining their own OA policy. Laurent
Le 20 juin 2012 à 11:45, Wise, Alicia (ELS-OXF) a écrit : > Hi Laurent, > > Institutions already do have agreements with publishers via their libraries > and/or library consortia. This is certainly the case for INRIA. > > With kind wishes, > > Alicia > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Laurent Romary > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:11 AM > To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) > Subject: [GOAL] Re: Why should publishers agree to Green OA? > > This definitely makes no sense. Institutions are not going to start > negotiating agreements with all publishers one by one. Does Elsevier have so > much man power left to start negotiating with all institutions one by one as > well. The corresponding budget could then probably used to reduce > subscriptions prices ;-) > Laurent > > Le 20 juin 2012 à 09:53, Wise, Alicia (ELS-OXF) a écrit : > > > Hi all, > > Just a quick point of clarification…. Elsevier doesn’t forbid posting if > there is a mandate. We ask for an agreement with the institution that has > the mandate, and there is no cost for these agreements. The purpose of these > agreements is to work out a win-win solution to find a way for the underlying > journals in which academics choose to publish to be sustainable even if there > are high posting rates. > > With kind wishes, > > Alicia > > Dr Alicia Wise > Director of Universal Access > Elsevier I The Boulevard I Langford Lane I Kidlington I Oxford I OX5 1GB > M: +44 (0) 7823 536 826 I E: [email protected] > Twitter: @wisealic > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Peter Murray-Rust > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 7:23 PM > To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) > Subject: [GOAL] Why should publishers agree to Green OA? > > > I have some simple questions about Green OA. I don't know the answers. > > * is there any *contractual* relationship between a Green-publisher and any > legal body? Or is Green simply a permission granted unilaterally by > publishers when they feel like it, and withdrawable when they don't. > * if Green starts impacting on publishers' revenues (and I understand this is > part of the Green strategy - when we have 100% Green then publishers will > have to change) what stops them simply withdrawing the permission? Or > rationing it? Or any other anti-Green measure > * Do publishers receive any funding from anywhere for allowing Green? Green > is extra work for them - why should they increase the amount they do? > * Is there any body which regularly "negotiates" with publishers such as ACS, > who categorically forbid Green for now and for ever. > > Various publishers seem to indicate that they will allow Green as long as > it's a relatively small percentage. But, as Stevan has noted, if your > institution mandates Green, then Elsevier forbids it. So I cannot see why, if > Green were to reach - say - 50%, the publishers wouldn't simply ration it and > prevent 100%. > > > -- > Peter Murray-Rust > Reader in Molecular Informatics > Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry > University of Cambridge > CB2 1EW, UK > +44-1223-763069 > Elsevier Limited. Registered Office: The Boulevard, Langford Lane, > Kidlington, Oxford, OX5 1GB, United Kingdom, Registration No. 1982084 > (England and Wales). > > _______________________________________________ > GOAL mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal > > Laurent Romary > INRIA & HUB-IDSL > [email protected] > > > > Elsevier Limited. Registered Office: The Boulevard, Langford Lane, > Kidlington, Oxford, OX5 1GB, United Kingdom, Registration No. 1982084 > (England and Wales). > > _______________________________________________ > GOAL mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal Laurent Romary INRIA & HUB-IDSL [email protected]
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