All - I agree with Jan with one exception; as a postgrad I used to sit in the library with a dozen paper-based journals around me with little bits of paper including annotations marking text or diagrams in papers I wanted to reference/cite. This allowed fast comparison. It is difficult to get this "real desktop" effect on a laptop. Best Keith
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keith G Jeffery Director International Relations STFC --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The contents of this email are sent in confidence for the use of the intended recipient only. If you are not one of the intended recipients do not take action on it or show it to anyone else, but return this email to the sender and delete your copy of it The STFC telecommunications systems may be monitored in accordance with the policy available from <http://dlitd.dl.ac.uk/policy/monitoring/monitoring%20statement.htm>. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jan Velterop Sent: 02 July 2012 09:44 To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci); Dana Roth Subject: [GOAL] Re: Becoming Unglued ... a rejoinder ... Dana, All these things - including flipping through pages, making notes, looking up references, multiple books open - are possible if the books are in PDF (and you're using a suitable PDF reader, such as Utopia Documents for instance). On a single laptop; I'm doing it all the time. What your undergrads may need is not a paper book, but some computer training. The only thing missing is the smell of a book. Which is indeed a drawback of electronic literature. Best, Jan Velterop On 1 Jul 2012, at 23:49, Dana Roth wrote: > In regards e-books in the sciences and engineering ... > > > This from one of our undergrads . who didn't want an e-book . > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > It is mostly personal preference that I prefer paper copies - > > * I like being able to quickly flip through pages (especially with math > books) to refer back to equations/concepts, while I'm not tech-savvy enough > to open two pages in a e-publication. > * Similar concept - having multiple books open and available is useful > * Being able to look up references online in books > * I take notes on my computer, so if I have an e-publication up, I can't > take notes > I suppose I'm just old fashioned. I realize now that this is not so much > "anti-epublication" as "not enough e-readers to look at several of these > e-pubs simultaneously." > > > > > Dana L. Roth > Millikan Library / Caltech 1-32 > 1200 E. California Blvd. Pasadena, CA 91125 > 626-395-6423 fax 626-792-7540 > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > http://library.caltech.edu/collections/chemistry.htm > ________________________________ > From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of Eric > F. Van de Velde [[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 6:35 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [GOAL] Becoming Unglued... > > I posted my latest blog a couple of days ago. It is slightly off-topic for > this list in that it is about books, not journals. However, it is 100% about > open access and an innovative way of getting around long copyright terms. Who > knows, it can be translated to journals... > > On Becoming Unglued... > On June 20th, the e-book world changed: One innovation cut through the fog of > the discussions on copyright, digital rights management (DRM), and various > other real and perceived problems of digital books. It did not take a > revolution, angry protests, lobbying of politicians, or changes in copyright > law. All it took was a simple idea, and the talent and determination to > implement it. > .... > > http://scitechsociety.blogspot.com/2012/06/on-becoming-unglued.html > > > --Eric. > > http://scitechsociety.blogspot.com > > Google Voice: (626) 898-5415 > Telephone: (626) 376-5415 > Skype: efvandevelde -- Twitter: @evdvelde > E-mail: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > > _______________________________________________ > GOAL mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal _______________________________________________ GOAL mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal -- Scanned by iCritical. _______________________________________________ GOAL mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal
