On Fri, 18 Jun 1999, Professor L.W. Hurtado wrote: > This is especially directed to Stevan Harnad re: his proposal that > authors of refereed journal articles should self-archive their final- > form articles and thus make them accessible on the Web. It is a > small but practical question: > At least in the Humanities disiciplines, journal articles can be of > significant length (perhaps longer than most "hard" science > articles), often 15-30pp or even more. Now a full citation > requirement = author, article title, journal, vol., year, and pp. of the > article and the specific p. of the portion being cited/quoted. In > paper form articles have such page numbers. Would/do self- > archived articles have the vol. & page numbers borne by the > articles in the paper-print journal? I assume so.
Yes of course -- as long as they last. Once journals are online-only, only paragraph numbers will be relevant. > If not (e.g., if what > is archived is a pre-print form), then someone citing the Web > version would have no fixed citation point (rather like not having > standardized latitude-longitude for giving location). Now in "pure" > (i.e., e-form only/original) electronic publication, as we know, > various e-form markers are put in (e.g., numbered paragraphs, or > even page numbers of the Web formatted version). But when an > essay appears also in paper-form, won't it be important for any > citation to enable a researcher to find and verify the citation > quickly, and isn't the ideal to have some citation format that allows > the researcher to verify either/both the paper-form and the e-form? > (This is obviously a simple request for information/suggestion and > not offered as an antagonistic question.) Larry Hurtado Vide supra. In the transition, there will be self-archived versions that are not page images (because images are nonoptimal and non-searchable, and because in some cases they, or PDF, may be proprietary). In such cases the self-archived non-paginated version will do just as well, can be checked, where needed, against the "authentic version," and will become the eventual standard anyway. There are no substantive issues here. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Stevan Harnad [email protected] Professor of Cognitive Science [email protected] Department of Electronics and phone: +44 2380 592-582 Computer Science fax: +44 2380 592-865 University of Southampton http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/ Highfield, Southampton http://www.princeton.edu/~harnad/ SO17 1BJ UNITED KINGDOM ftp://ftp.princeton.edu/pub/harnad/
