david i will try to be clear(as i believe i have been--for example the great Franz Ingelfinger is long gone and bad laws can be broken or challenged and changed)) re'your 1. of course paper journals can become paper and web or web only but there is a major cultural and procedural and economic transition required and many humans(and organizations)wed to paper and its processes(and revenue) have had great difficluty with such a full transition perhaps they will improve over time if proper incentives could be in place 2. label and reputation can transfer to the web or can become deserved by track records for web originals over time.. Professional editing and peer review can be applied in many web constructs in addition to "traditional" web journals For example www.CBSHealthwatch.com uses professional editors and high quality named peer reviewers as a routine FOR CONSUMER information yet
rarely has there been greater opportunity to create and do things well or to downgrade, unfortunately. hope this exchange helps some we have a wonderful new medium to use well for fabulous activities in the public interest george -----Original Message----- From: David Goodman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: PostGutenberg Copyrights and Wrongs for Give-Away Research George, Your explanation for your position leaves me with 2 qys: 1. Cannot these values also be achieved by the conversion of printed journals to web only journals? Do we really need additional journals? 2. But this contradicts your first paragraph; the editing and peer review can be applied in many ways on the net, including the conventional one you use in your own Medscape titles. Label and reputation will work just as well on the net. George Lundberg wrote: ... The > great values of electronic publishing can be realized without diminishing > quality by simply creating many fully electronic journals that are edited > professionally and follow the peer review process diligently and are made > available on the internet free of charge to all. Anyone who wishes to read > the information on a printed page can furnish their own paper. Some of you > presumably know that at www.medscape.com we have been doing this now for two > years with www.medgenmed.com and a developing family of eJournals that > complement our many other forms of electronic information, all made freely > available very rapidly to internet users. ... > But i believe readers of biomedical information have a > right to be able to reasonably trust at least some sources of such > information and be able to determine by label and reputation what has a good > chance of being trustworthy because the authors, peer reviewers, editors, > and publishers followed accepted time-tested rules. > george lundberg > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Goodman [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 10:43 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: PostGutenberg Copyrights and Wrongs for Give-Away Research > > This is a very clear statement of exactly the policy that Steve and so > many of us are urging be changed universally. > > George Lundberg wrote: > > > > In the document entitled Uniform Requirements for Manuscripts Submitted > to > > Medical Journals published by the International Committee of Medical > > Journal Editors it is stated that "....electronic publication is > > publication....." Most such journals do not wish to consider for > > publication a paper that has already been published. Thus an author can > > choose the initial method of distribution of written work once only. > > george lundberg > > - > -- David Goodman Biology Librarian and Co-chair, Electronic Journals Task force Princeton University Library Princeton, NJ 08544-0001 phone: 609-258-3235 fax: 609-258-2627 e-mail: [email protected] ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender or call Medscape at 877-676-1597. **********************************************************************
