**Responses in asterisks** I don't pretend to have all the answers in these issues; I just want to point out concerns that will no doubt occur to any working librarian.
Brian Simboli >bs> Let us say that one is concerned with the good of preservation and places >it at >bs> least on par with the good of open access, and perhaps even trumps the >latter. > >sh> Hard to see how preserving content can trump providing content: One cannot >sh> preserve non-existent content... **Well, sure, one cannot preserve non-existent content, but that is not the point. Let us cut through the sophistics, which are interminable, and ask the question: in deciding how to dispose funds for digital initiatives on a campus, should a library manager devote money to the green approach or to a gold or to a TA approach, assuming that they must make some sort of decision? The typical academic library does not have huge resources, nor does it have much staff time available. It is a continuing saga of triage. I am not speaking of CDL, or of Harvard, or MIT, though librarians at such large places may also face this dilemma** > providing immediate access to all would-be users now increases rather > than decreases the probability of eventually finding a way to guarantee > that that access will last forever. **Not clear on why this is the case.** >bs> This to me is a quite significant speculative leap about the future >bs> behavior of thousands of institutions and individuals. > >sh>It is speculative to assume that people will want to hold onto >sh >a good thing, once they get used to having it? **The point is rather that they may not be interested in holding on to a good thing once it is no longer immediately gratifying (a negative feature, incidentally, and by analogy, of social behaviors in our larger culture). > Because while we wait for OA content provision, research impact is being > needlessly and cumulatively lost, daily, weekly, yearly. **Interesting. However, pursuit of self-archiving does not guarantee the sort of long-lasting and stable preservation of the scientific record that, in the long term, will promote impact of research. /Green solutions are dependent on the largesse of big publishers that are not charitable institutions, and who at any point can hem in or overturn their green provisions./ Why not, right now, set up the infrastructure for universities to own their own output in a long-lasting and stable fashion, rather than be continually hostage to whatever new pricing scheme is dreamt up by marketers at the big publishers? Again, it gets down to where to put the bucks--in training faculty how to self-archive, or in developing publishing alternatives that will much more so guarantee longevity of access, whether open or TA?** > http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Temp/self-archiving_files/Slide0025.gif > > Fulfilling immediate needs surely trumps waiting for guarantees that that > fulfillment will last for ever. **I'm not so sure about this. Small universities don't have much money to spend on digitization efforts, whether staff time or outlay for infrastructure. I think that the library community should be more concerned with preserving the scientific record, rather than focus on immediacy of access--/access which is already being provided, at least in the first world, via highly efficient interlibrary loan operations, and ability of individuals in the public to walk into university libraries and use public terminals./ I cannot speak for the third world** Brian Simboli
