Dear AmSci Forum,

The straw poll is complete (the full results are reproduced at the end
of this message).

The vote is for (1) continuing the Forum, under (2) the moderatorship
of Richard Poynder.

The AmSci list will now be migrating to
http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal where the BOAI
list is also being hosted.

You need not re-subscribe. Your subscription will be automatically
transferred to the new host site.

The name of the list has been changed to the Global Open Access List
(GOAL) to reflect the fact that Open Access is no longer just an
American or a Scientific matter. It has become a global movement.

The old AmSci Forum Archives (1998-2011) will stay up at the Sigma Xi
site (indefinitely, I hope -- though we do have copies of the entire
archive).

The new GOAL archive, starting 2012  will be at:

http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/pipermail/goal/

(Till the end of December, AmSci and GOAL will run in duplicate.
Although we hope the transfer will be smooth, there may be a few
glitches. We apologize and hope you will be patient until they are
sorted out.)

Stevan Harnad (soon to be replaced by Richard Poynder!)

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Below are the complete results of Straw Poll on whether to continue
the Forum, and on who should be the new moderator:

AGAINST CONTINUING AMSCI:

ARIF JINHA: I believe it would be better to have one forum, the BOAI.
This forum has developed a doctrinal bias defined by the values and
personality of its leadership.  Though the leadership is to be
commended for its credibility and vigour, it is not without its blind
spots. It has not always OPEN to a diversity of perspectives.  AMSCI
is driven by assertive and competitive advocacy for mandates over Gold
OA publishing.  The rush to conclusion on the right path is premature
and overly authoritative in its expression, therefore it is
alienating.  In truth, we have only really got started with the web in
the last 10 years and authority is completely flattened by the
learning curve. The BOAI is much wider in its representation of Open
Access alternatives, it is therefore more neutral as well as having a
wider reach for the promotion of Green OA.  It means less duplication
and less work devoted to instant communication, giving more time to
develop a rigorous and scientific approach to meta-scholarship in the
digital age.

FOR CONTINUING AMSCI:

DANA ROTH: I would disagree with Arif Jinha, in that it is the
'assertive and competitive advocacy for mandates over Gold OA
publishing' that make AMSCI such an interesting listserv.

SUBBIAH ARUNACHALAM: First, I wish to express my grateful thanks to
Stevan for all that he has done so far, and in particular for
moderating this Forum for so long and so well. That he will continue
to devote much of his time to promoting open access and institutional
repositories gives me strength to do the same. Second, if Richard
Poynder agrees (or if we could persuade him) to moderate this list,
there is nothing like it. The baton would have moved to safe hands.
Not only he has the stamina of a long distance runner, but he is also
endowed with the qualities needed for a moderator. He is knowledgeable
and levelheaded. Welcome Richard!

DOMINIQUE BABINI: Discussions and ideas in this forum are also
inspiring for regional OA forums and lists, e.g., the Latin America
and the Caribbean Open Access List (LLAAR, in Spanish). Thank you,
Stevan, for your dedication as moderator all these years, and
especially for your new OA initiatives and ideas. Thank you for your
Skype contribution at the OA Experts Meeting last week in UNESCO
headquarters, where we missed you [in person].  I also support Richard
Poynder as [new] moderator for this Forum.

MICHAEL E. SMITH: I am in favor of continuing the list, and either of
the people you mentioned as potential moderators would be good
choices.

PAOLA GARGIULO: I also agree that the list should continue. I'm in
favour or Richard Poynder as moderator. Hope you will continue to
contribute.

PETER SUBER: If Richard is willing to moderate, I vote for him.  I
second Alma's reasons why Richard would do well in this role.  I
second Arthur's best wishes to you, and I second (or third) Barbara
and Hélène's tribute to your work.  Finally, as the former moderator
of SOAF and BOAI, I welcome you to civilian life.  It's amazing what
one can do when one has more time to do it.

BERNARD RENTIER: I vote for Richard Poynder. The excellence of his
critical and fair papers speaks for his designation. If he is willing
to do that, I am sure he will be an outstanding moderator. And that
this will let Stevan be even more tirelessly to the point in every
debate!

TOM COCHRANE: The value of the Forum cannot be overstated. It has
provided a unique service in assessing the events and health of OA
developments. It would be a regressive step in several ways if it were
to fall over. It is not too much to claim that its way of charting
developments, alerting readers to new issues, identifying useful
research and work on OA, and in your hands, reminding its readership
of the main issues – all these have had a direct impact on practical
developments. This has occurred to a degree that no single one of us –
from whatever part of the world -  can comprehensively take in. But
believe me, it has played a vital role. But individual workloads need
to be shared, and we at QUT understand your reasoning. We are happy
with the Richard Poynder suggestion.

ELOY RODRIGUES:  I also support Richard Poynder for moderator.  I
strongly support the continuation of the AmSci Forum, and I regret
your decision of stepping down as moderator (even though I understand
your reasons, and I do hope that it will turn out the right decision
for you, and your efforts for OA progress).  Thanks for your tireless
work for Open Access! All the best (from Rio de Janeiro, where I was
also archivangilizing for ID/OA mandates, at the Portuguese-Brazilian
OA conference).

KEITH JEFFERY: I am sorry it has come to this; you know I support your
point of view and moderation does require correction of misconceptions
as well as just posting. I wish the Amsci list to continue and Richard
is, of course, an excellent choice as future moderator.

ANDREW A ADAMS: I am in favour of the forum continuing to operate. I
feel Richard would make an excellent new moderator.

PIPPA SMART: I am in favour of the forum continuing and would be very
happy for Richard Poynder to moderate.

MARC COUTURE: I definitely wish the forum to continue. I may be only
the occasional contributor, but I've always been a very steady reader.
As to you not being the moderator anymore, I think it's even a good
thing, not because I share the opinion that a moderator should be
neutral and discreet, but because it will spare you some precious time
you could devote to useful purposes, OA-related or not. Note that I
assume we will continue to benefit, in the forum, from the seemingly
inexhaustible energy and the flawless, razor-sharp logic of our
"weary" archivangelist.

BARRY MAHON:  As a long time stirring stick in the OA (hard to know
what word to use to describe it) world, and having crossed swords with
both Stevan and Richard over the years, I have a heavy heart in
accepting Stevan's decision but an uplift that Richard has
volunteered. It will, I wish, go on....and I'll be there, or here,
whichever is the more appropriate.

JEAN-CLAUDE GUÉDON: I also think this list should go on. And  having
Richard or Thomas moderate is a good idea too.

BOB PARKS: Congratulations on stepping down. I hope it gives you more
time to pursue OA!!! Either Krichel or Poynder would be a good
moderator.  I fear that Krichel is over committed.

HEATHER MORRISON: Thanks very much for moderating the list all these
years! I hope that the list will continue, and would support either
Richard Poynder or Thomas Krichel as moderators.

SALLY MORRIS: The support for Richard as moderator of the continuing
list seems clear. We really don't need to see all the messages - I
thought that was the point of keeping them off the list?

THOMAS KRICHEL: I think it should continue, as it appears to be the
largest and most active forum.  I volunteer to do it….  If Richard
wants to do it, I'd be happy not to.

RICHARD POYNDER: Well I certainly vote for it to continue. I would
even put my name down for the moderator's hat if it was felt
appropriate for a journalist to run such a forum, and people believed
I could do the job adequately

ALMA SWAN: I am writing to nominate Richard Poynder as the new
moderator for the AmSci Forum. I think he brings the right qualities -
amongst them honesty, fairness, intellectual curiousness and
efficiency - and is hugely respected as an independent, critical
thinker on the issues that AmSci covers. I want the Forum to continue
because it is a real discussion list rather than a bulletin board…

HELENE BOSC: In memory of the remarkable work done by Stevan Harnad
for Open Access through this list, during 14 years, I wish it
continues... Richard Poynder would be a perfect moderator!

BARBARA KIRSOP: If Stevan feels he can better operate in support of OA
not as the moderator, then it would be great indeed if Richard Poynder
would adopt the mantle. I think AMSCI should continue. I am somewhat
in favour of a name change to highlight OA rather than the US - a name
change could be a mini-re-launch perhaps and bring in new contributors
- a fitting tribute to Stevan's past efforts.

ARTHUR SALE: May I wish you the best as non-moderator. It is the right
decision for you, I think. This may be a shock to you that I think
that it is a plus, but I think we need to get new ideas into the OA
transition, and you have done your bit and a lot more… and perhaps I
can even convince you eventually that the Titanium Road is the way to
go now! You will be bombarded with messages begging you to reconsider,
but I do think it is the right decision. Then you can enjoy being
yourself without constraint. No one person can bear the weight of the
world, not even Atlas.

IRYNA KUCHMA:The AmSci Open Access Forum is an active discussion forum
(SOAF and BOAI are more like the announcement lists) and my answer is
(1) definitely to continue. It's sad that you've decided to step down
as a moderator. I wish I could help you with moderating it, but I am
travelling a lot and sometimes not able to moderate the BOAI on time….
Hope you will find the ways to continue.

EUGENE GARFIELD: When I think about Stevan Harnad another information
pioneer comes to mind. The Belgian documentalist Paul Otlet. His
collaborator Henri LaFontaine,  received the Nobel Peace Prize. That's
the kind of recognition that Stevan deserves.

MICHAEL KURTZ: I liked that AMSCI reflected your point of view, I value that,
and expect I will always.  I hope I will always be able to discover
it, perhaps you will frequently post.

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