Indeed. And 'open' doesn't mean 'yet closed for text-mining and re-use'.
Jan

On 9 May 2012, at 09:55, Sally Morris wrote:

Aye, there's the rub.  Open just means open - in my opinion it is futile
(and unnecessary) to insist on a strict definition
 
The main objective is that anyone who wishes to should be able to read the
item.  All the rest, IMHO, is extra
 
 
Sally
       
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Jan Velterop
Sent: 09 May 2012 09:13
To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
Subject: [GOAL] Re: Meaning of OA Libre

I would favour doing away with both the terms 'libre OA' and 'gratis OA'.
Open Access suffices. It's the 'open' that says it all. Especially if it
is made clear that OA means BOAI-compliant OA in the context of scholarly
research literature.
Jan Velterop

On 9 May 2012, at 08:30, Peter Murray-Rust wrote:



      On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Stevan Harnad
      <[email protected]> wrote:

            On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Jan Velterop
            <[email protected]> wrote:

            JV> So by all means, let legal measures play a
            role, but not at the expense of lowering the bar
            to 'gratis' OA. If one believes in mandates, then
            there is no reason why BOAI-compliant OA ('libre'
            in your [SH] lingo) should not be mandated.

I'd like to suggest that the term "libre OA" be dropped. "Gratis OA"
implies freedom for anyone to read the manuscript somewhere. "Libre
OA" imlies the "removal of some permission barriers" but neither
says which or how many. Since Gratis OA has already required the
removal of one permission barrier (the permission being granted to
post on the web, permanently) it can be argued that all Gratis OA is
ipso facto Libre OA.

This renders the term Unnecessary and confusiing, and allows many
people and organizations to imply they are granting rights and
permissions beyond GratisOA when they are not. If there are current
examples where the use of "libreOA" plays a useful role it would be
useful to see them.

The only terms that make operational sense and are clear are Gratis
OA and BOAI-compliant OA . It is a pity that the latter is a long
phrase and maybe its usage will contract the phrase.

I would be grateful for clear discourse on these definitions and the
suggestion of retiring "libreOA".

P.

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Reader in Molecular Informatics
Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
University of Cambridge
CB2 1EW, UK
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