Andras,
Thanks very much - this is a very useful statement to comment on.

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Andras Holl <[email protected]> wrote:
      Dear All,

      The thing whether Open Access relates to an individual article
      or a whole journal is not clear.


Agreed - The normal practice is that a journal publisher will state the rights
for the whole article. the problem arises where authors create different rights
for a single article, normally by "hybrid Gold OA". The rights here are usually
not clearly spelled out on the article. It is usually not even clear this is a
hybrid article, or when this is made clear (with, say a star "Free Content" or
some such phrase - it varies by publisher) what the rights are. The phrase "Free
content", "Author Choice" is publisher-specific and very hard to interpret, even
by human.
 
      Does libre OA mean that anyone
      is free to redistribute the whole journal, or only one, a few
      article?


libre OA means almost nothing.

BOAI means that anyone can re-use the content in whatever way they like.

      Text mining rights are meaningful only for the whole journal.


This is probably true in practice until there are machine-readable licences.

      My opinion that they should be granted


Thank you!
 
      - the problem I have
      is not with the rights. It is with the practice. The OA journal
      I manage has every article available in several formats - LaTeX, PS.
      PDF, HTML -
      some of these are generated on-the-fly, some static. Indiscriminate
      harvesting is a prolem for me. What I would like to have is
      some method, which is a mix of robots.txt and htaccess,
      maybe with a touch of legal content about the scope of
      possible use of harvested content.


That is exactly what we are doing in our Manifesto on Open Content Mining.
Trying to make everything clear
 

      So, in my opinion, the real worls situation is even more complex
      than either gratis or libre. There are many flavors of OA, and
      I do not think that sticking to the bOAI definition would do much
      good.

BOAI is the only current specification that allows textmining but I agree, it
would be better to have other documents. I believe that it is meaningful to mine
toll-access documents and we need clear licences for this.

P.



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Peter Murray-Rust
Reader in Molecular Informatics
Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
University of Cambridge
CB2 1EW, UK
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