Hi Larry, An Open Access journal must not necessarily be funded by author fees, but can also be covered by institutional funding (universities, research institution, charities, funders ...) without any cost for the authors. That is the experience with almost all running OA journals in the Humanities, see for example: http://pkp.sfu.ca/node/2773 But you are right, the Finch report has miss that point.
To my mind, it is not only the problem of journals prices what ask for OA. Via the internet, the immense potential of cross-linking scientific knowledge (such as text and data mining or virtual collaborations) has become apparent. This potential can only be realized fully if the content and results of scientific and academic research become publicly and openly accessible. And I think that is equally important for the Humanities and the Social Sciences as for the Sciences. But you are Best, Falk _____________________________ Falk Reckling, PhD Humanities & Social Science Strategic Analysis, Open Access Department Head Austrian Science Fund Sensengasse 1 A-1090 Vienna Tel: +43-1-505 67 40-8301 Mobile: +43-699-19010147 Email: falk.reckl...@fwf.ac.at http://www.fwf.ac.at/en/contact/personen/reckling_falk.html -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] Im Auftrag von l.hurt...@ed.ac.uk Gesendet: Freitag, 20. Juli 2012 11:13 An: goal@eprints.org Betreff: [GOAL] Re: Finding a business model for a growing Open AccessJournal I'm President of my UK learned society, and have had no contact about the Finch project or anything connected with scholarly publishing. So, I'm not confident that the scholarly community has been involved adequately in the Finch process (though I stand to be corrected). From what little I've learned thus far of the "Gold OA" proposal, I'm worried, particularly for two constituencies: --The models all seem heavily driven by the problems and practices of the sciences, with little regard for the Humanities. We don't (never have) paid page charges. Our journals aren't typically expensive at all (an "expensive" journal might cost a univ library a few hundred quid at most, and that would be rare). We don't typically have research grants to pay page charges (the govts typically don't see Humanities research as important enough to fund it in any measure other than token). --There are a number of private scholars in the Humanities who don't hold Univ posts but produce high-quality work. Who will pay their page charges? In short, once again, the Humanities seem to have been left largely out of the thinking about consequences of the various models. Larry Hurtado Quoting "Hélène.Bosc" <hbosc-tcher...@orange.fr> on Thu, 19 Jul 2012 21:13:57 +0200: > See also this study : > BJÖRK, B.C. A Study of Innovative Features in Scholarly Open Access > Journals. Journal of Medical Internet Research, vol. 13 (4), 2011. > http://www.jmir.org/2011/4/e115/ > > Hélène Bosc > Open access to Scientific Communication > http://open-access.infodocs.eu/tiki-index.php > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Peter Suber > To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:01 PM > Subject: [GOAL] Re: Finding a business model for a growing Open > AccessJournal > > > See the list of OA journal business models at the Open Access Directory. > http://oad.simmons.edu/oadwiki/OA_journal_business_models > > > Peter > > > Peter Suber > gplus.to/petersuber > > > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Peter Murray-Rust <pm...@cam.ac.uk> wrote: > > I am forwarding a message from the OKFN's open-access list > (http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/open-access which uses the > term strictly to mean BOAI-compliant). > > The poster Katie runs a successful OA journal and asks how she > can scale up without APCs. She raises the idea of a SCOAP3-like > model for cancer. There must be a number of other people with the > same question: > * they don't want closed access > * they don't want author-side fees > * they recognize the money has to come from somewhere. > > Katie (and I) would be interested to know of possible models and > possible nuclei of like-minded groups. > > This seems to me one of the key problems of the current time of > transition. > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Katie Foxall <ka...@ecancer.org> > Date: Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:53 AM > Subject: Re: [Open-access] SCOAP3 > To: open-acc...@lists.okfn.org > > > Hello all > > I haven't posted [on OKFN open-access] before but have been > following the discussions with much > interest and have founds the info and links provided by various people > really useful. I run an open access cancer journal > http://ecancer.org/ecms > which has no author fees - we are currently mainly supported by charity > funding but the journal has been growing at a great rate this year so I'm > looking into accessing any funding that might be out there to > support open > access publishing. The reality is that we will have to start charging > author fees at some point if we can't get more funding and we > really don't > want to do that as providing a free service for the oncology community is > very important to us. > > So does anyone know whether there is anything like SCOAP3 in the field of > medical publishing? > > Thanks in advance for any help or advice anyone might be able to give me, > > Katie Foxall > > > -----Original Message----- > From: open-access-boun...@lists.okfn.org > [mailto:open-access-boun...@lists.okfn.org] On Behalf Of > c...@cameronneylon.net > Sent: 18 July 2012 15:50 > To: open-acc...@lists.okfn.org > Subject: [Open-access] SCOAP3 > > Not got so much press as the big announcements this week but > this is a big > deal. Communities can just decide unilaterally to move to OA. > > http://scoap3.org/news/news94.html > _______________________________________________ > open-access mailing list > open-acc...@lists.okfn.org > http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/open-access > > > _______________________________________________ > open-access mailing list > open-acc...@lists.okfn.org > http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/open-access > > > > > -- > Peter Murray-Rust > Reader in Molecular Informatics > Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry > University of Cambridge > CB2 1EW, UK > +44-1223-763069 > > _______________________________________________ > GOAL mailing list > GOAL@eprints.org > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > GOAL mailing list > GOAL@eprints.org > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal > L. W. 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